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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:50 PM
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This is how McGrumpy shows respect for the American flag
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 11:50 PM by seemslikeadream


2 days ago: Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., right, and former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, arrive at a town hall meeting at the York Expo Center inside the Straight Talk Express campaign bus, Tuesday, Aug. 12, 2008 in York, Pa.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:53 PM
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1. Ok Lieberman and Ridge get a pass with the Flag code
but John... slept through that class at the academy?

There are days that make you go :wtf:

Now will some surrogates please use this against John?
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:04 AM
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2. Did I miss something?
Looks like the bus went under the flag. What you see on the left side of the bus is definately a reflection.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:16 AM
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4. If the bus had clearance under the flag, it wasn't much.
It looks to me like the top of the bus grazed the bottom of the flag as the bus drove underneath. If it had clearance, it must have only been an inch or two. Not a risk I'd take driving under something, that's for sure!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:41 AM
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5. The top of the bus did not clear the flag. n/t
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:08 AM
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3. The Repubs continue to mistake symbolism for substance
I don't give a flying fuck how big a flag is, how many flags are standing in the background during speeches, or whether there's a little metal one on someone's lapel. If you don't RESPECT what it stands for, flag or no flag, the disrespect shows. And the Repubs do NOT respect it. Like everything else they get their grasping hands on, they've twisted and abused it the same way televangelists twist and abuse religion. It's a fucking costume to them, the Stars & Stripes. Look how many of them actually make CLOTHING out of it. Like that's supposed to impress anyone who really understands the history and meaning of the flag and how it's supposed to be treated.

The photo above is actually one of the less offensive illustrations of what the Repubs think of the flag. DECORATION. I ask you, does anyone doubt what country we live in and what our flag looks like? Then why do the Repubs have this insane need to shove it in everyone's face? It proves nothing except how superficial they are.

You don't have to live in a church to be religious.

/rant
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:35 AM
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6. Let's focus on important issues.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:44 AM
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7. I've been doing that for the past week
I wanted to look at something different for a few moments



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3797835&mesg_id=3798051

BBC Q&A on South Otsettia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3757959

I am EXTREMELY worried about this Georgia-Russia conflict
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755805

This sudden crisis of Russian aggression.......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755491
Hey, did anyone hear that Russia invaded the country of Georgia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3754790

War-meeting during the Olympics. Who the f**k is that!!?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755858

Who the FUCK do we think we are, asking for a cease-fire from Russia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755213

Georgia: Russia has invaded and we are under attack; 1,400 reported dead.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753363

Was South Ossetia’s Fate Sealed In Kosovo?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756273

Well, looks like today's events have pushed the....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755746

Oh, P.S. Russia......on the opening day of the Olympics, no less?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755653

Well it looks like all the chickens are coming home to roost....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756144


Georgia is the #3 contributor of troops to the Iraq "coalition"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756079

A First Glimpse of the Third World War
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755034

*yawn* So, did I miss anything?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3754808

Russia Warns NATO Against Further Support of Georgia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753406

US Backs Georgia Territory Integrity; Sends Envoy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752721

WJ: Zeyno Baran discussing Russia Georgia conflict. Fascinating
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762026

Putin Says `War Has Started' as Georgia Claims Russian Invasion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751069

BBC: Separatists estimate that 1,400 civilians have died
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755074

Georgia to Impose Martial Law, Port Bombed-Official
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755262

Georgia Reports New Air Attack Near Capital; 2nd Night of Fighting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756297

Russia has just invaded Georgia.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751753

Russia v Georgia; Don't worry Condi is on the Job!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755945

8/8/08 - Two significant events.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3761579

Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran The intent is to create a US/EU naval blockade
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756171

U.S. Aircraft Carriers Head For The Gulf (Kuwait News)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755233

REAL BACKGROUND on the Georgian war, courtesy of MSNBC video...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756945

Russian jets have attacked oil port of Poti!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756319

Russian Warplanes Target Sites Near Georgian Capital
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3758703

What will be the outcome of the Georgian-Ossetian war?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3758030

Most important news story of the week ending 08-08-2008
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756038

Did the U.S. Prep Georgia for War with Russia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3764646

No Two Countries with McDonald's Have Ever Gone to War!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3764229

List of ships heading to Iran anybody else hear about this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3763125

Anyone know a good source of news coming out of Georgia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3763442

Obama, McCain On South Ossetia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762547

Georgian Athletes Withdraw from Olympics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3763846

Don't worry: George Bush is on the ball with the Georgia situation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3760360

Georgia Parliament Approves Martial Law for 15 Days
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762842

We're in the midst of a diplomatic crisis--where's Princess Condi?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3757135

Today the U.S. ceased to be the world's sole superpower....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3760917

Israel supplied Georgia with drones, weapons, military advisors
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3763094

Abkhaz separatists strike disputed Georgia gorge; Opening Second Front
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762759

Russian troops raid Georgian town; scores dead
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762448

How the Caucasus Erupted - Der Spiegel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3761954

South Ossetia: Oil and nationalism - a troubled history
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762662


In Georgia's outsourced justice system, a traffic ticket can land you deep in the hole.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3760017

Georgia's president seeks martial law as violence continues
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3762427

The Russian Conflict In Georgia Could Make War With Iran More Probable
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3765882

Russia snubs George W Bush's call to pull troops out - 2,000 dead 30,000 refugees
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3765543

Georgia hoped US would intervene on their behalf, as a favor for Iraq support
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766863

Massive U.S. Naval Armada Heads for Iran PLUS some scary stuff!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766365

In Georgia Clash, a Lesson on U.S. Need for Russia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766541

Kevin Rudd witnessed a heated discussion between US President George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766653

The irony of Bush's warning to Russia concerning Georgia attack!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766669

Death toll in South Ossetia reaches 2000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766576

BBC News - Moscow saying it has "liberated" Tskhinvali, conflict spreading to Abkhazia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3763651

Azerbaijan halts oil exports via Georgia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3766427

1,400 are feared killed Georgians shell rebels Russian troops move in IT'S WAR
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3761536

Biden calls on U.N. Security Council to get involved in South Otsettia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3757026

Caught off guard, Britain and US try to broker peace
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3765760

'"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars,It's impossible to count them"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3756196








http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3797835&mesg_id=3798011

Yet another Oil War starts.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751916

US military trainers not involved in Georgia conflict: military
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751906

So, while we were all wringing our hands over war with Iran...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751456

Oil Watch:BP Confirms 500,000 Barrel/Day Cut On Pipe Shut in Azeri Feilds.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751397

Meanwhile, there's a war brewing in the former U.S.S.R.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751300

Georgia Pulls Out Troops from Iraq amid ‘Russian Aggression’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751255

Russia invades Georgia while Chimp attends Olympic Games
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751187

What's going on in Georgia (the country)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3748614

War is brewing in Georgia over oil and gas. Our next disaster?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3746395

What moral authority does the U.S. and mccain tell Russia to stop the war on Georgia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752159

What's more important?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3755121

There's a brand new war coming to a theatre near you
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3754350

The tin foil is getting a work out this week, no?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752963

McCain Foreign Policy Advisor, Scheunemann, Recent Paid Lobbyist for Georgian Govmt.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3754035

The world could blow up now,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753599
Georgia on my Mind...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752285

CAPTION - Shrub** and his Soul Mate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752762

So, basically this whole Russo/Georgia war is our fault and is really no big surprise.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753380

Russia’s Market Collapsed on War in South Ossetia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753393

Seriously, why the hell isn't the news covering the situation in Georgia?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752781

Analysis: energy pipeline that supplies West threatened by war Georgia conflict
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3753136

South Ossettia Leader Says 1,400 Killed in Conflict

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752711

Fellow DU'ers can you explain or help me understand
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751334

Russian planes destroy combat planes at Georgian base!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752033
McCain heading to Atlanta -- Heard Russia invaded Georgia!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3751904

BBC: In Pictures: Unrest in Georgia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752832

Oil now below $116, other energies down as well.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752328

Statement from Medvedev:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752428

Help me understand....Russia invades Georgia and oil prices tumble?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752267

Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752252

Doesn't look like the Russia v. Georgia conflict is scaring
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3752161


America is no longer the nation that can "fix anything"....that has changed now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3786996

Malloy: The Shoe Lady Speaks...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3786044

Scrubbed From CNBC... Before Georgian/Russian Conflict..US Participated In Georgian War Games
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3782030

It's time to say it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785474

This is not news. This is propaganda, pure and simple.-By Dave Lindorff
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3782961

03-Bush Was In Trouble-"Bring in some nuclear material from Soviet Union & pretend they are Iraqi"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3782771

This Georgian issue has me spinning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3786756

I have truly and completely had it with "Nationalism."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3782233

Want a real eye-opener on the Georgia mess?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3779273

Analysis of the Georgian-Russian Conflict STRATFOR and ORLOV
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3786156

Bush: Why don’t you shut up? (Russia Pravda)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3786292

I don't get the Neocons problem with Russia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785373

How the U.S. Invited a War in South Ossetia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784680

Product Placement? (Georgia President quotes John McShame)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785324

CEASEFIRE IN GEORGIA; Putin Outmaneuvers the West
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785561

Fox: John McCain Has Known Georgia's Pres. "For 25 Years" - Since Saakashvili as 16 yrs old?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785606
Rice: Russia must halt operations in Georgia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785512

It was Georgia that struck first in South Ossetia, not Russia!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3771245

April 1, 2008: "Bush stirs controversy over (Georgian) NATO membership"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784959

Quick. Who's the Secretary of State?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784950

Robert Parry: Neocons Now Love International Law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3783999

Meet McCain's bro --- Mikheil Saakashvili, the man who lost it all
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785348

NYT Re McCain and Neocons - So, McCain Is Extra Strength Bush?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785439

Russia/Georgia war another bush foriegn policy failure
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785420

What a wonder job CNN is doing covering the "Russian atrocities" in Georgia. To bad they don't
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785093

She's back: Condi Rice ends vacation to tackle Georgia (OH, dear GOD, NO! She ended her VACATION?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3785104

Georgian Conflict Leaves West Reeling And Russia Walking Tall
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3783639

So, McCain says he's "speaking for all Americans". . now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784804


Did Georgia commit genocide?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784717

McCain: We Are All Georgians Now. ....Really?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3784052
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:56 PM
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8. OK. Point taken.
:hug:
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 11:54 AM
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9. WOW! The crowd that showed up to see them goes WILD!
Oh, noes! :yoiks: :rofl:
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