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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:03 PM
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"War Or Car" Blog: For The Cost Of The Iraq War We Could Have Bought Every American A Prius...
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 04:24 PM by Hissyspit
For the cost of the Iraq War we could have bought every HUMAN BEING two iPhones...




For the cost of the Iraq War we could have desalinized enough seawater so that all Africans could drink safely until the year 10,000...




MORE: http://warorcar.blogspot.com













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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:07 PM
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1. YESSSS! First to kick and rec this!
And bookmark it, AND email it to myself so I can always find it easily.

GREAT resource. The material in it should be one of our TOP talking points.

:patriot:
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:16 PM
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3. K&R
SICK! JUST SICK!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:09 PM
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2. Of course, but Big Oil does not want every American to have a Prius
...plus the outstanding debt obligations due to the Iraq and Aphganistan Wars will top three trillion dollars, so most of us won't be able to afford even a used 10 year old Toyota
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:35 PM
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4. War or Car? Give me a break....
We're 'mericuns!
We're the baddest m'efer's on the planet.
Eff Africa!
If they don't have clean water that's their fault.
Quit letting your water buffaloes piss in it.
Then you'll have clean water.

A Prius for everyone?
Yeah, right.
Give everyone a jap car.
That's a great idea.
And a I-Phone?
Only New York and L.A. faggots use those.
We had to go kick some mooslim ass for 9/11 and they're all in Iraq!
What are you a communist?


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Ok get it?
That's my transcript (loosely based) of most of the Orlando cab drivers I've become accustomed to.
Except for two guys who are brothers.
One says "Countdown" is his favorite show and his brother thinks McCain is an "old whore".
I love those guys.





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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:42 PM
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5. If you look in the back of John Perkins' book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman",
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 04:42 PM by greyhound1966
he cites a UN study showing that for <10% of our "defense" budget, we would make our over bloated military unnecessary. This amount would provide food, clean water, education, reproductive health care, and general health care to the whole world that lacks it.

If we did this, who would want to attack us? Osama Bin Laden became a ME superstar for building some roads and a few schools and a hospital. The entire American military mission could be accomplished with the state guards and a small reaction force for the inevitable wackos, not to mention the rebuilding and improvements to our own lives.

We have the means, where is the will?




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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:10 PM
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9. I've GOT to read that book
I see it cited everywhere.

I always think of the ending of "Charlie Wilson's War", where Wilson tried to get a FEW MILLION dollars to help Afghanistan get schools, roads and other infrastructure - and he was turned down. After he'd managed to get BILLIONS for weapons to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.

Both he and the CIA said that investment in the region would have prevented the rise of Muslim fundamentalist domination in the area.

And what did we get? The Taleban and the rise of a guy named Osama bin Laden.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 06:21 PM
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14. No "profit" to be made, so no corporate backing, so no political will.
They dance to the tunes of their "campaign donors". We are an annoying inconvenience that must be tolerated every 2, 4, or 6 years to maintain the illusion of choice.

But yes, you have to read that book.



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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:34 PM
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10. Whoa.
I missed that. Amazing, thank you.

Seriously? Is that right?

Let's do that!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:05 PM
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21. He references it in the book, so the study is in the citations. IIRC it was
conducted in 1998 and cost $40B p/yr. <10% of our "official" DoD budget. Disgusting.



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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:42 PM
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26. I actually take a lot of hope from that,
if it's possible to do all that good with money we are wasting now. Even the most pro-military person would agree there is at least that much waste.

So for building the political will to make those choices instead, the work falls back to us!
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:46 PM
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12. Came across this book by accident
Working on a client computer in a law office, waiting on some updates to install. Client says help yourself to one of my books to pass the time. So I pick up this book and read the first 100 pages. Amazing and disturbing read. I highly recommend it though. I'm buying my own copy so I can finish it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 06:17 PM
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13. It's both a great read and terrifying on many levels, not the least of which is
that this is exactly the kind of stuff that "crazy, tin-foil hat wearing, woo-woos" were talking about 40 years ago. There are, in fact, evil operatives that fuck up the world in the name of our government for the benefit of corporations and quasi-governmental thugs like the WTO/IMF.

His next book deals with the "jackals" mentioned in "Hitman".

Of course Gen. Butler (2 time CMOH recipient) was also warning us about this very thing 80+ years ago, after he realized his whole career was spent subjugating people for United Fruit, Standard Oil, etc., and we ignored it then too.



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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:42 PM
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6. buying every american a prius would have made the price of oil go DOWN, not UP...
and that CANNOT be allowed.

the iraq war did EXACTLY as it was intended.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 04:53 PM
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7. You can't expect that from the party hell bent on destroying the earth
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:03 PM
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8. We could have paid EVERY Iraqi fifty-grand to leave the country.
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 05:11 PM by Usrename
Every single man, woman and child.

on edit> make that $100,000.00 per person - the costs keep going up - that's over a half-million dollars per household.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:44 PM
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11. K&R
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 06:51 PM
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15. "Freedom isn't Free" We have ever so much more freeedom now we've invested in Iraq.
Don't we?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:48 AM
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16. could we have had universal health care?
could we have educated our children through 4 years of college?
could we have saved the victims of katrina?
could we have saved the victims of the mines that caved?
could we have saved the victims of the bridge that collapsed?

i bet we could have. but the war served the empire, and the empire must be fed. fuck the people, save the empire.

tires me out. better to kill, maim and destroy than to build, save and educate.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 11:46 AM
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17. umm let's see. a great car vs millions dead, maimed, and displaced....hard choice!
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 11:47 AM
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18. I love it!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 11:50 AM
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19. rec 20
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:00 PM
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20. Yeah, but Blackwater and Halliburton would have missed out on some lucrative deals.
It wouldn't have been fair to them.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:14 PM
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22. k&r
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:24 PM
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23. I wouldn't want one.
They're ugly and they're a Toyota.

I'll wait on the European line from Ford, thank you.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:50 PM
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27. So, just because it's made by Toyota
you would rather complain about the price of gas? makes no sense to me. They make the best cars, and have solutions now, not some pie in the sky future like Ford, Chevy, et al.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:22 PM
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24. how much longer before they can give me a Lamborghini?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:43 PM
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25. Better yet...WE don't even have to pay for it!!!!!!
Bush & the Republicans put the WAR on the Credit Card.
Our CHILDREN will have to pay for it!

Talk about Taxation without Representation!
Who speaks for the kids who will have to pay for this mess?
The Democrats????
:rofl:
They are busy shoveling MORE of your kid's money into the shithole.



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