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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:19 PM
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sales tax holidays
There was a sales tax holiday in Massachusetts over the weekend. I've never gotten very excited about these, so it was interesting to see this post on my town's message board that explains why sales tax holidays aren't such a big break for shoppers. The thing about credit card purchases is something I hadn't thought about:

As a business owner, I guess I’m supposed to be in favor of this "tax holiday". But after seeing the twentieth Bernie’s ad of the day interrupt the Olympics, I’ve had enough of it.

What are people going to do with a tax holiday? Food and clothing aren’t taxable, unless you eat out and that’s not included in the holiday anyway. Books and other small ticket items don’t really cost much less without the tax. If you want to save any real money, you have to spend quite a bit - a $200 purchase will save you $10 - and, besides, stuff gets put on sale for more than 5% off all the time, at the discretion of the business that wants to increase sales or clear out merchandise.

The only stuff that rarely goes on sale and that would make sense to buy in a sale like this is big-ticket, low margin stuff like furniture and electronics. So it seems to me that the most likely thing to happen is that people will impulse-buy big-ticket stuff in order to save a few points on it. Chances are, in a lot of cases that type of purchase will end up on a credit card and may end up being paid over time at substantially greater cost to the buyer than the 5% that was saved (at 18%, if it takes 4 months to pay it’s a net loss) and further increasing the credit card debt that is a large part of the economic mess we’re in.

The winners are Mastercard, Visa, and the big box stores. The losers, as I see it, pretty much everyone else. Unless your biggest purchase of the day was $7.25 at the Red Fire farm stand for some yummy blueberries and summer squash :-)
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:23 PM
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1. For us here in NC, clothes are taxable
Thus, the tax holiday, usually done right before school starts-- also on back to school clothes, electronics, books (textbooks) is actually good for us...
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:25 PM
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2. true
I can see this being a bigger deal in a state with higher sales taxes than Massachusetts. Ours is only 5%, and it doesn't apply to food or clothes. Plus, most of the state is close enough to New Hampshire, which has zero sales tax, that it's easy to drive up there if you really want a tax break.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:34 PM
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5. Same here in TN - it's a great deal
My wife and I usually try to hit the two sales-tax holiday's that our state has each year. It's a great savings for us and for clothing for our son, and since she's a teacher, she gets to load up on supplies for her classroom (out of our own pocket) and save some cash. We've even bought our computers during this holiday and that definitely adds up to some savings.

It's a win-win here but in other states with more reasonable tax laws (we pay almost 9 percent for EVERYTHING - in some counties its approaching 10%) it may not be as much of a bargain as its promoted.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:34 PM
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3. Here in NM, the tax holiday weekend is just before school starts
and applies only to school items, which can be anything from a pack of pencils to a new laptop and printer.

This is a poor state, though, and even a 7% break is a huge deal for a lot of people. The weekend tax holiday on only specific items helps a lot.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:20 PM
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4. I live within 10 miles of the NH border
So whenever I need a sales tax holiday, I drive a few miles up to NH. I think they were hoping that people would take this as an opportunity to buy big-ticket items, like appliances and furniture.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 06:21 PM
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6. Not in Mass.
But my family could have used it.

A week before school started my ma would take me shopping. This is late '60s and early-mid '70s. We'd buy school clothes. 10 shirts, 10 pants, two new pairs of shoes (dress and sneakers), a coat, usually a suit; Xmas would fill in growth-induced gaps and replace threadbare things. That added up to a lot of sales tax, even at the 1.25% or whatever it was at the time. Then, after a couple of days of school, when I had a supply list, my father would take me shopping for notebooks, pens, etc., etc., and that was usually a fair tab. I hated the entire process.

These days I know families that do something similar. But included in the shopping spree is a computer and software, sports equipment, or other pricey stuff. With sales from the stores, knocking off 8% is pretty nice.

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