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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:42 AM
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Hey-John: If Pakistan can impeach a sitting president & force his resignation-why can't you?

Musharraf, Not Bush, Follows Nixon

By Ray McGovern
August 20, 2008

Most of the fawning corporate media (FCM) coverage of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf’s resignation Monday was even more bereft of context than usual.
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It was as if Musharraf looked out the window and said, “It’s a beautiful day. I think I’ll resign and go fishing.”

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Hey, John. If Pakistan can move forward to impeach a sitting president and force his resignation, why can’t you? You were part of it in 1974. Is being chairman of Judiciary too much for you?

Without any apparent tongue in cheek, Tuesday’s New York Times editorial points a sanctimonious finger at Musharraf’s abuse of power, noting that “the presidency must also be stripped of the special dictatorial powers that Mr. Musharraf seized for himself, including the power to suspend civil liberties.”

The Times notes “President Bush underwrote Mr. Musharraf’s dictatorship, but says nothing of the example Bush himself set — including rigging elections, as Musharraf did.

It is the height of irony that the relatively young democracy of Pakistan has been able to exercise the power of impeachment inherited from the framers of the U.S. Constitution, while the constipated committee captained by Conyers cannot.

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more at:
http://consortiumnews.com/2008/081908g.html
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:46 AM
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1. Congressman Conyers we are with you.
There are at least 35 reasons already written down. I'm sure there will be more at the end of the week. Let's do it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:00 AM
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2. All the whining in the world will not change the makeup of the Senate.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:08 AM
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3. So cynical criminality must be allowed?
Complete bullshit.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 09:30 AM
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4. But in the PUBLIC hearings all the crimes will be fully exposed,
and if the Senate chooses to not convict it will indict every senator who voted against it.

Even in winning, they lose.

Didn't Sun Tsu say something to the effect that if you are facing a battle you cannot win, your best option is to convince the enemy he will receive irrecoverable damage by engaging in that battle. That's what happened with Nixon. It was a very iffy thing if impeachment could be pulled off, but the determination to impeach let the republicans know that they would be mortally wounded, even if they won the fight. Thus, the republicans themselves forced Nixon out, rather than face the total destruction of their party, because they knew the public would not stand for them covering for the crimes of his administration.

Despite appearances, I believe most Americans still believe in democracy and honest government, and will not put up with electoral fraud, being lied to, justice officials appointed because of their politics instead of their capabilities - but they have to be CONVINCED that it is happening first.

Without impeachment, we will never convince them.
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