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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:32 AM
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Some interesting statistics and our priorities
In 2005, per the NHTSA:

Bicyclists killed by motor vehicles: 720 (92%)
Bicyclists injured by motor vehicles: 45,000 (up 9.8%)



And per the CDC:

Accidental firearm deaths: 789
Accidental firearm injuries: 15,388


Yet where is all the liberal energy being put? About (my guess) 99% or so into controlling firearms.

Whose interests are being served?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:35 AM
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1. No wonder I found a trigger lock on my Bianchi this morning......
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:36 AM
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2. Americans killed by cancer last year: 553,888
How many gun-related homicides were there?

It's World-O-Statistics! (let's compare apples to apples, please)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:38 AM
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3. Yes, we need more stringent controls of bike riders.
The "king's X, now laws don't apply to me" riding is probably the source of most accidents with cars.

If you have driven in a big city, you've nearly run over a bike rider downtown many times. When they ride between cars, they are virtually impossible to see and keep track of. When they ride down the wrong way, when they cut across several lanes in the middle of the block, when they don't stop for lights or signs.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:39 AM
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4. an agenda and mass attack decides what to be outraged about adn reason doesnt
and wont ever become a part of it.

we see it with pet issues like smoking
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:43 AM
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5. Americans bored to death by all the nonsense wedge issues: 300 million
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 11:45 AM
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6. I'm not sure we put more than 1% of our energy into controlling firearms
unless you compare it to the issue of bicycle safety. Yes, the automobile is a weapon of mass destruction. What is your point?
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 08:44 AM
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7. Yes, sorry, I should have specified that I meant the relative amounts of attention
anguish, etc. being paid to the two situations.

As to my point, I suppose it's that the effect of making travel safe for human-powered and micro-powered vehicles would benefit all life on Earth to a immeasurably greater degree than all the firearm legislation ever imagined. Every creature on Earth is being killed by cars and the car-oriented lifestyle - the dead cyclists are just the (still not very visible) tip of that moving-at-deceptive-speed iceberg.

But nobody talks seriously about making the world safe for low-pollution travel. Stripping people of a Constitutional right, yeah. Making it possible for people to safely travel via hpv/mpv? What a hope!

In a way, it's like the subject of Tole's wonderful cartoon this morning:


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