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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:51 PM
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Faux Moran Cavuto guest - Why should I be responsible for paying for Joe Biden's brain Aneurysms?
CAVUTO: Now, Jonathan, you're not calming down, right?

HOENIG: Neil, I'm not. In fact, both Joe Biden and Barack Obama have made it very clear that they support socialized health care. In fact, they think that health care is a right. And I think it shows a real ignorance as to what a right actually is. I mean, a right is right to action; it's not to a freebie from someone else. And I know it sounds kind of curt in this age of political correctness and altruism, but why should I be responsible for paying for Joe Biden's brain aneurysms?

MARC LAMONT HILL (Fox News contributor): Ouch.

CAVUTO: All righty. I'll leave that alone.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200808230004

Joe Biden, along with John McCain, receives pretty good health insurance from the government. This idiot is already paying for their health care.

http://www.eschatonblog.com/
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:53 PM
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1. Some peole are just too stupid to live. They bring down the level of the entire human race.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:53 PM
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2. compassionate conservatives
:puke:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:53 PM
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3. Oh gosh. What a typical right winger.
He wants everyone to die from bad health care and lack of funds.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:56 PM
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4. Notice this idiot didn't complain that McLame has been
receiving full Disability Benefits ever since he retired from the Navy.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 04:59 PM
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5. Because only Republicans are entitled to the fruits of America.
Again, typical.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:14 PM
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7. So, he doesn't want to pay for Cheney's heart problems either? Fine with me.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:18 PM
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9. Good point - I'd rather not pay for Cheney either n/t
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:09 PM
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6. Probably for the same reason we pay to remove John McCain's weekly melanomas...
... It's the right thing to do.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:17 PM
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8. Yeah someone should've asked him if he wanted to pay
for McSame's melanomas and his full disability pay! Oh, plus McSame collects Social Security as well.

And for the person w/o insurance like those in Congress, who does he think ultimately ends up paying for the operations and treatment if the person who got it has to go in to bankruptcy due to medical bills?

We who have health insurance that whose cost continues to skyrocket(though I'd think that cost is not that big a reason) and the taxpayers.

If done right health insurance through the government would save us more in the long run than the costs we are already paying for the uninsured.

And to morans like this idiot - no one says he couldn't buy a supplemental private insurance policy or opt out of the government system if he has the means!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:20 PM
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10. BTW here's the bio of the Capitalist Pig
Jonathan Hoenig is the Managing Member of a private investment partnership. A former floor trader at the Chicago Board of Trade, Hoenig's first book, Greed is Good: The Capitalist Pig Guide to Investing was published by HarperCollins. He is a frequent commentator in the financial press, and has written for publications including The Wall Street Journal, Wired, Maxim and Smartmoney.com. Hoenig has been featured in numerous publications including The Wall Street Journal, Institutional Investor and The Chronicle of Higher Education. Jonathan was recently named one of The Chicago Sun-Times "Thirty Under Thirty" and Crain's "Forty Under Forty." He is a member of the Economic Club of Chicago.

http://www.capitalistpig.com/
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:30 PM
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11. CAVUTO has MS AND had Hodgkin's lymphoma. He should have torn the guy up
USATODAY.com - MS part of Cavuto's worldFox News anchor Neil Cavuto had already survived a near-fatal bout with Hodgkin's lymphoma when he suddenly started to suffer episodes of blindness, ...
www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-12-20-cavuto_x.htm - 61k - Cached - Similar pages
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:30 PM
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12. faux news viewers going -
"What'd he say? And your ismas ???"
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:33 PM
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13. I know I'm going to get my head bit off here, but I think he has one little point
Not about single payer health care, which I really, really, *really* support and think is long over due.

I've alway felt that we are using the wrong terminology when trying to convince 'the other side' about universal, single payer health care. I think it often gets framed incorrectly when people call it 'a right'. We are talking about other people's labor - doctors, nurses, research workers and so forth. I have no more 'right' to their labor, for free, than they have to demand free use of my skills as a web designer.

I think the framing should focus more on the overall benefit to society when *everyone* has access to health care. How much better it would be for the strength and stability of our communities AS A WHOLE when people aren't losing their homes and having their lives crumble because of illness. Whether it happens to ourselves or our neighbors - it still takes a terrible toll on the well being of our culture.

That, I think, is the proper frame.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:47 PM
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16. What needs to happen is to get business behind it as well
Those ones left who are paying at least some of the cost of their employee's health insurance. Point out how this is costing this competitively. How auto factories have been built in Canada instead of the U.S. because of health insurance costs., etc.

Show the cost savings both to business and to those getting insurance.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:16 PM
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18. That's probably an even more useful frame
and one likely to get us somewhere faster. It's the truth too. It does hurt business's competitiveness. The only money interests that seem to benefit is the insurance industry.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:40 PM
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14. If they keep this up
even the die hard wingers are going to wake up!
What a bunch of simpletons.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:07 PM
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17. Yup, let 'em talk, get them angrier and angrier.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 05:44 PM
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15. But it's not a "freebie", you dumb bastard.
I don't think anyone ever implied that it was.

Also Joey, you have socialism all around you. You know, unless you live in a world where you think those letters come in your mailbox from owls, your human waste disappears in some faraway land when you flush, your garbage magically vanishes every morning after you put it out, the roads you drive on are naturally that smooth and those soldiers "keepin' you safe" are merely interns doing this purely out of the goodness of their hearts. :eyes:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:17 PM
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19. Lol. Excellent and funny post!
Also Joey, you have socialism all around you. You know, unless you live in a world where you think those letters come in your mailbox from owls, your human waste disappears in some faraway land when you flush, your garbage magically vanishes every morning after you put it out, the roads you drive on are naturally that smooth and those soldiers "keepin' you safe" are merely interns doing this purely out of the goodness of their hearts.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:22 PM
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20. "They Think Heath Care Is A Right"
Damn straight we do. My Constitution says the government should safeguard Life, Liberty & the pursuit of happines. It sure seems to work for these asshats when they equate life with a blasophyst, but not once the baby comes out of the womb...hell most favor capitol punishment. As George Carlin once said..."it's all a matter of the timing".

Does this fukstick realize how much money is drained from his beloved economy by both catastrophic health costs (illnesses that could be prevented but people either are afraid to seek treatment or have no coverage at all)...not to count the lost work days and productivity? Nah...he's a greedy, ignorant pissant who probably lives on GOOP welfare.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:22 PM
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21. "Because it's cheaper than paying for your grandchildren's occupation of Iraq, you lying whore."
One might opine.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:35 AM
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22. "why should I be responsible for paying for Joe Biden's brain aneurysms?"
any more than we should have to pay for McCain's anti-senility medications ...
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 07:36 AM
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23. Doesn't Neil Cavuto bear a strong resemblance to Porky Pig?
n/t


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