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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:17 PM
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Comcast to restrict broadband use to 250 GB of data a month
Comcast to restrict monthly broadband use

Ryan Kim, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, August 29, 2008

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/28/BUBK12KEFR.DTL

Comcast soon will begin cracking down on heavy users of its Internet service in a move that critics fear could be a step toward restricting unlimited broadband access to download and upload files while surfing the Web.

The country's largest cable company and second-largest Internet provider said Thursday that beginning Oct. 1, residential users who download and/or upload more than 250 GB of data a month will be notified and asked to curb their use. Customers who exceed the limit a second time in six months will face termination of their account.

The limit clearly defines a policy that Comcast has had in place for many years. In the past, excessive users faced similar restrictions, but the limits were never spelled out and actually fluctuated month to month depending on overall traffic. Comcast would not disclose the range of the old limits.

Comcast officials said the move will help maintain a smooth experience for the majority of customers, who use far less than 250 GB a month. The current median monthly data use is 2 to 3 GB, Comcast said. The company, however, has no immediate plans to release a meter for customers to track their own usage.

"We have some extremely high bandwidth users that consume a disproportionate amount of data, and that can degrade service for others," said Charlie Douglas, a spokesman for Comcast. "To maintain a high quality of service for users we've gone with this."

Critics, meanwhile, said they're disappointed with Comcast's willingness to set limits instead of adding capacity.

"This wouldn't be necessary if Comcast had chosen to expand its capacity," said Michael Shames, executive director of the Utility Consumers' Action Network in San Diego. "They've chosen instead to degrade service."

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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:20 PM
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1. What are these heavy users doing?
How many GB is a full-length movie?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:23 PM
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2. I transfer at least 50GB a day for my job.
Does Comcast really want to lose all their customers? That doesn't sound like such a good business plan.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:28 PM
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3. this is a trial balloon
if Comcast gets away with it, they'll all start doing it. I don't download music or movies, but I watch horse races online, and look at several youtubes a day. How does that compare to the 250 GB limit?
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:51 PM
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9. Not very much at all.
I'd seriously doubt that you'd consume even a gigabyte of bandwidth a day looking at youtube and watching horse races. Hell, when I do torrents at home, I'd love to be able to download 8 gigabytes in a single day, but I never have that much luck with comcast.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:48 PM
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8. Do all of their customers use that much bandwidth?
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:29 PM
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4. 250 Gigs is lot for most people.
"Comcast said it was setting a monthly data usage threshold of 250 gigabytes per account for all residential high-speed Internet customers, or the equivalent of 50 million e-mails or 124 standard-definition movies."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080829/wr_nm/comcast_internet_dc

also:

"Comcast said up to 99 percent of its 14 million Internet subscribers would not be affected by the new threshold, which it said would help ensure the quality of Internet delivery is not degraded by a minority of heavy users"

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:46 PM
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6. It's a lot now ... but ... like the "Alternative Minimum Tax" - watch your head ...
you may start bumping into that sooner than you think ... especially with the way internet advertising goes ...
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:52 PM
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11. Sure, for "standard definition" movies.
But what about HD or BlueRay quality movies and shows? Aren't BlueRay disks 25 gigs each for two hours' worth of viewing? That's only ten such movies a month. So, there's your limit. Given the right movies and shows, I could easily watch that much in a month.

And Japan, South Korea and other spots across the globe have 100mbs for $40 a month. Do they have upper download limits, too? We invented the Internet and yet we're almost last in bandwidth available to users.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:03 PM
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13. Depends on the type of codec used.
Lossless codecs would result in a huge file size, but that's why they are rarely used. A more typical number for a good quality internet movie is 700 Megabytes (0.7 gigs).
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:45 PM
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5. like the tax code ...
that's a "big number" NOW ... but what about in 2 to 3 years? That may not be too far away ...

I remember when a 386/33 was considered fast ...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:48 PM
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7. Maybe Comcast needs to hit Ted Stevens up for some bigger tubes..
before he goes to jail :)
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:58 PM
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10. would explain any checks to Palin-drone's campaigns ...
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:55 PM
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12. several years ago i marveled at dial up
as time goes by people's broadband needs grow and grow.
What was considered lots of bandwidth for a fairly large buiness very recently is now considered
not enough for a home office.
I sell dsl and t-1. Folks are finding they need to upgrade.
With web 2.0 applications becoming more mainstream, this will just continue.

What i fear is the first poor slobs who find out they ran out of internet before they ran out of month. Kind of like Oliver Twist with your Bowl in hand---
'PLEASE SIR, CAN I HAVE SOME MORE????"

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