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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:06 AM
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Poll question: What percentage?
What percentage of the population would have to support impeachment for the Congress to start proceedings?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:16 AM
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1. How do you measure that? Via the Corporate Media? Not gonna happen. nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:39 AM
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2. Democrats in Congress confuse being good and being nice.
The Democrats want to be nice to Bush so they can win Bush supporters' trust. It ain't gonna happen. Bush supporters don't trust Democrats because the Democrats "act" too nice. So, to some extent impeachment is stalled because Democrats in Congress are afraid of fighting with their gloves off. It is too much of a gamble for many of them.

But, the big question is whether impeachment is possible, whether Congress can satisfy the legal test for impeachment in the Constitution.

Article I, Section 2<5> states

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers' and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment;

Article II, Section 4 states

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The argument could be made that the Bush administration committed treason when it committed our soldiers to a war of aggression in Iraq based on what it knew to be a lie about the Saddam's purchase of uranium in Niger, Saddam's possession of WMDs when the international inspectors had determined that Saddam had destroyed the WMDs and the presence of Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq -- for which there was no evidence.

There are lists of grounds for impeaching Bush and Cheney. The question is whether those grounds really meet the constitutional standards for impeachment.

The Republicans impeached Clinton for perjury -- a crime.

Bush lies constantly, but not under oath -- so perjury would be difficult to prove.



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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:07 PM
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3. In other words, they're pretty good at crime
These guys are good! - at crime.
Their crimes have been well-documented on these pages many times. Still, no accountability, no justice. After all, one of the biggest criminals, the A.G., runs the justice racket!
Impeachment? They'll just run out the clock.

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