Here are some of the fundamental beliefs of Palin's religious sect...

some CRAZYASS stuff

These are nonnegotiable tenets of faith that all Assemblies of God churches adhere to. This list is derived from the official Statement of Fundamental Truths. Click links below to see the complete original statement with scriptures.

WE BELIEVE...The Scriptures are Inspired by God and declare His design and plan for mankind.

WE BELIEVE...There is only One True God–revealed in three persons...Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (commonly known as the Trinity).

WE BELIEVE...In the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. As God's son Jesus was both human and divine.

WE BELIEVE...though originally good, Man Willingly Fell to Sin–ushering evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.

WE BELIEVE...Every Person Can Have Restored Fellowship with God Through 'Salvation' (accepting Christ's offer of forgiveness for sin). <1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G>

WE BELIEVE...and practice two ordinances—(1) Water Baptism by Immersion after repenting of one's sins and receiving Christ's gift of salvation, and (2) Holy Communion (the Lord's Supper) as a symbolic remembrance of Christ's suffering and death for our salvation.

WE BELIEVE...the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a Special Experience Following Salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service, just as it did in New Testament times. <1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G>

WE BELIEVE... The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is ‘Speaking in Tongues,’ as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.

WE BELIEVE...Sanctification Initially Occurs at Salvation and is not only a declaration that a believer is holy, but also a progressive lifelong process of separating from evil as believers continually draw closer to God and become more Christlike.

WE BELIEVE...The Church has a Mission to seek and save all who are lost in sin. We believe 'the Church' is the Body of Christ and consists of the people who, throughout time, have accepted God's offer of redemption (regardless of religious denomination) through the sacrificial death of His son Jesus Christ.

WE BELIEVE...A Divinely Called and Scripturally Ordained Leadership Ministry Serves the Church. The Bible teaches that each of us under leadership must commit ourselves to reach others for Christ, to worship Him with other believers, and to build up or edify the body of believers–the Church.

WE BELIEVE...Divine Healing of the Sick is a Privilege for Christians Today and is provided for in Christ's atonement (His sacrificial death on the cross for our sins). <1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G>

WE BELIEVE...in The Blessed Hope—When Jesus Raptures His Church Prior to His Return to Earth (the second coming). At this future moment in time all believers who have died will rise from their graves and will meet the Lord in the air, and Christians who are alive will be caught up with them, to be with the Lord forever. <1 of 4 cardinal doctrines of the A/G>

WE BELIEVE...in The Millennial Reign of Christ when Jesus returns with His saints at His second coming and begins His benevolent rule over earth for 1,000 years. This millennial reign will bring the salvation of national Israel and the establishment of universal peace.

WE BELIEVE...A Final Judgment Will Take Place for those who have rejected Christ. They will be judged for their sin and consigned to eternal punishment in a punishing lake of fire.

WE BELIEVE...and look forward to the perfect New Heavens and a New Earth that Christ is preparing for all people, of all time, who have accepted Him. We will live and dwell with Him there forever following His millennial reign on Earth. 'And so shall we forever be with the Lord!'

but they consider any Christianity to be crazy ass--some more than others. Assemblies of God are a very widely accepted conservative evangelical Christian church to most Christians and most of their doctrines are basic Christianity. I doubt there are many here who even care to understand that though.

Its a bunch of crazy ass superstition ...

Snake handling and glossalia ....

Sorry, but I see no reason to be 'understanding' to a system of belief that would reduce MY freedom to believe as I do ....

I greatly doubt the 'very widely accepted by most christians' assertion .... There is no empirical evidence to support this ....

I've been there, done that. I know of what I speak. Concerning Christianity, do you?

They are fucking whacked in the goddam head. More right wing theocractic, anti science bullshit.

Life is too short. I wonder what Obama would say to you?

Im still voting for him ... but I GREATLY doubt anyone would vote for him if he danced with snakes or spoke ecstatic gibberish ...

for any church, so there is no reason to paint them all with that broad brush. As for speaking what you call "gibberish", millions of Americans do it including members of Assemblies of God, Pentecostals, and charismatics of many faiths. I highly doubt that anybody who is going to vote for McCain will refuse to do so because Palin is a member of the Assemblies of God.

Argumentum ad populatum ... The number of persons who believe something does not increase the likelihood of it's truthfulness ...

I doubt your statements about Pentecostalism, not the voting patterns of numbskulls ....

It's pretty much restricted to Holiness churches in Tennessee and a few states around it.

What we REALLY need to highlight is Palin's membership in Feminists for Life, a group that calls normal everyday birth control pills abortifacients.

Catholic 46,004,000 50,873,000 71,796,719 24.5% +11%
Baptist 33,964,000 33,830,000 47,744,049 16.3% 0%
Methodist/Wesleyan 14,174,000 14,150,000 19,969,799 6.8% 0%
Lutheran 9,110,000 9,580,000 13,520,189 4.6% +5%
Presbyterian 4,985,000 5,596,000 7,897,597 2.7% +12%
Pentecostal/Charismatic 3,191,000 4,407,000 6,219,569 2.1% +38%
Episcopalian/Anglican 3,042,000 3,451,000 4,870,373 1.7% +13%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 3,995,371 1.3% -10%
Latter-day Saints/Mormon 2,487,000 2,697,000 3,806,258 1.3% +8%
Churches of Christ 1,769,000 2,593,000 3,659,483 1.2% +47%
Congregational/
United Church of Christ 599,000 1,378,000 1,944,762 0.7%
Jehovah's Witnesses 1,381,000 1,331,000 1,878,431 0.6% -4%
Assemblies of God 660,000 1,106,000 1,560,890 0.5% +68%

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#families

Very little RED out there ....

Nuff said ...

In America, the overwhelming majority of us USED TO BE Christians. And, in my experience, know more about Christian history and doctrine than most Christians.

is based upon old hurts and prejudices by which they are willing to brands a group of millions of peoples by the actions of a few or those who hurt them. Their atheism is too vitriolic to believe otherwise. I am at best an agnostic or a borderline atheist, but I feel no need to trash and belittle Christians or other religions for their beliefs.

After a strict upbringing based on the Catholic catechism ....

I became an atheist AFTER I studied religion and the bible ... not before ...

Making a virtue of believing things for which there is no evidence is dangerous for humanity.

That's why I'm an atheist.

Knowing more is WHY we're no longer religious!

Jesus, a great politician, said not to follow wolves in sheep attire. I think he said it. Someone with a good brain did. People must not look for something outside of their body, to take care of them. We need to share, but not feel as if we are taken care of without using our brains. The most hurt that you can do to your loved ones, is to succumb to anything without first taking it in and making a personal choice as to whether or not you will follow it. I like church, although not able to go physically, for the people and not the doctrine. I sort it out, but love the people everywhere I'm able to go. Mrs. Moose

Pentecostalism generally is hardly mainstream Christianity, and the highly politicized Assemblies version is barely within shouting distance of the mainstream on many doctrinal issues, notably the gift of tongues and rapture theology.

Baptist churches, Catholic churches, many different denominations have members who speak in tongues and the rapture theology is believed by millions of Christians who are not Pentecostals or members of the Assemblies of God. Outside of speaking in tongues and the belief in the exercising of the gifts of the Spirit there is no difference between Assemblies of God and nearly all mainstream churches. I would highly doubt that you would find many pastors who would refuse to associate or fellowship with somebody because they go to the Assemblies of God--they are widely accepted. Now as far as mainstream Christianity goes, Mormonism is an entirely different because that is not only not considered to be mainstream, but a cult by Christian churches.

Mainstream Baptists are definitely not in favor of speaking in tongues, and tend to regard it as either showing off or demonic deception. It's one of the big divisions between SB's especially and Pentecostal churches. (Though whenever mentioning Baptists it's important to remember that Baptist denominations tend to be very decentralized, so individual churches can vary a great deal from one another.) I've been to plenty of Baptist services (my first boyfriend was a Baptist, and I went to church with his family somewhat frequently) and while there was a lot of Amen!ing and Praise Him! type stuff, there was definitely no prayer language, people speaking in tongues and others being called to interpret or other AG style "gifts of the spirit." If anybody started babbling like that, they'd probably have called an ambulance thinking they'd had a stroke.

The Catholic church is a pretty big tent (hence the name) and while there are "charismatic" Catholics, just as there are Pius X Catholics, Catholic churches that do rogue ordination of women and I know not what else, that's definitely not even close to mainstream Catholicism.

Likewise, while many mainstream lay Christians believe in the Rapture, and some steeplejacked denominations affiliated with mainline Protestant denominations may push rapture theology, mainstream churches as a rule don't teach it. Why? Because mainstream churches have more stringent standards for education of their ministers, and tend not to give jobs to people dumb enough or ignorant enough of the bible to believe that crap.

and will accept at face value anyone else who claims to be.."waaashed in the blooood of Jaysus!"
Is that what you're saying?
Okay...

beliefs are mainstream Christianity. Like it or not, the overwhelming number of people in this country are Christians and they do believe in god and that does not make all of them fools. I am also willing to bet is spite of the vocal atheists here that there are thousands of DUer who also consider themselves Christians and they are not fools either, nor do they probably enjoy seeing their religion mocked here where we are supposed to be broad minded Democrats who are accepting of the beliefs of others.

surely your faith should be strong enough to endure a little perceived "mocking"
Or maybe it's not?
I guess they're just not making Christian martyrs like they used to, are they?

At best I am an agnostic at the moment, but I know and understand Christianity and have actually read all of the Bible, which probably puts me a notch above many Christians. I am able to respect the views of all religions and even atheists who can disagree without being disagreeable, but if you say anything about God or Christianity people go apeshit here.

if I had not, I would have been a piss poor literature student.
Having done so, I am tempted to question the sanity of anyone who takes seriously those angry fairy tales for raggedy ass herdsmen

and also Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

or embrace it after giving up blow, booze, or whatever
Or give it lip service lest they offend the delicate sensibilities of the Angry Sky God and Son, Inc. adherents.
Sad.

of the error of his ways. You could try now though because I am sure he would be open to your opinion.

the touchy superstitious whiners.
Only Jaysusssssss knows what's in his heart!

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Most Assemblies of God are not mainstream Christian churches. Expecting the Rapture and Speaking in Tongues are NOT mainstream Christian beliefs. The far right sects of Christianity get far more attention than their numbers justify simply because of these more "colorful" beliefs, but your not going to see these beliefs from your basic Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopals, Catholics, Congregationalists, Presbyterians etc.

I ended up married to an abusive man with no safety net.I was taught from childhood that a good wife submits to her husband no matter what . It went against my nature , so I rebelled . It caused me a lot of pain and anxiety, My rebellion went way to far at times.


Becoming an Athiest was a long and painful road for me , and I am a better and happier person for it

We did not just decide one day that it would be neat-o to be an athiest and turn half of our Families against us.

Mr Moose and I have been brought up different, but I faired best. He was deeply hurt by religious addicts all around him. He was hurt by it and we talk a lot about such things in our old age. He says that he likes talking with me and that I help him to shake the bigotry he had to accept.. or feel like a failure. It is so hurtful to bully using Jesus. Jesus was a good man and it is not right, but we also have to let people that are looking to do good, to find the right way on their own. It is a process needed to find out what you want to accept for your own truth. I guess we have to be patient and not push although it is hard. Mrs Moose

we would be living in a better world :hi: :hug:

NT!

a very special zombie

THis list is not far off other Christian churches. There are some differences, but looks pretty standard to me. Dems need to be really careful about dissing Christian beliefs. You don't want to alienate the Christian community. I believe in strict "separation of church and state", and I am a Christian. I think arguments can be made on the basis of "separation", but just for Dems to trash Christians and their beliefs is a very dangerous road to travel.

Having known way too many people who were A/G, having way to many interactions with such people, I can tell you with authority that they are indeed nucking futs. A couple of examples: Our former AG, Senator, Governor John Ashcroft is heavily into A/G. So heavily that he believes in the Old Testament concept of annointing kings. Every time after being sworn into whatever office he's been elected or appointed to he literally annoints himself with oil in the Old Testament tradition.

Another, I used to own an arcade in SW Missouri, big A/G area. It was situated next to an A/G church. I opened at noon on Sundays, and always came in a bit early to clean up, catch up, etc. After about a year of hearing some really strange sounds, speaking in tougnes, myterisous thumpings, etc. coming from this church, I had a little old lady from this church make her way into my arcade when I opened up one Sunday. She went around peering into each machine, sort of mumbling to herself. I asked politely if I could help her and she went off on a tirade about looking for the number of the beast in these machines. She was convinced that somewhere on each and every video game, pinball machine, pool table and what have you that she would find "666" somewhere in or on it.

These people aren't your ordinary conservative Christians, they border on the cultish, and cross that border a lot. They are very Old Testament Christians, very literal Christians, and very much want to bring about a theocracy in this country, and quickly. I was raised a Southern Baptist, and they are far beyond Southern Baptists in conservative, fundamentalist viewpoint.

They have also become much more militant over the years. They abandoned their pacifist stance in 1967, and many of the rural A/G churches have become rather militant.

Please don't try to dismiss this as another RW fundie group, bad as that notion is. They are far beyond that and their ultimate aims are not good.

Stay clear of bullies and dictators. Think for yourself....look for the truth behind what is being shoved down your throat. Go and listen and learn what you think from your soul that is withing you. That is what I think. I hope we all can just love each other and keep on just the way we are doing on here. This is a good way to learn what we want or don't want to live with. Mrs. Moose.

And you are so very arrogant and prejudgmental. Jeez! Take a look at what you clearly have not seen, an Assembley of God worship service, and compare that to the worship services of more mainstream churches. Try praying out loud at random with your hands in the air down at the Methodist's place and let me know how that goes for you.
And you obviously don't understand that rapture 'heology' is far from the teahcing of the vast majority of worldwide Christians. The vicar thinks it is blashphemy. It is a minority view that the majority sees as rather sacreligious.
You say most Christians, when you speak of only one nation, this one. Ask Pope Ratzinger about the rapture. See what he says. Ask the Archbishop of Canterbury. Ask the primate of the various Orthodox churchs. Ask down at the Presbeterians, the Luterans, Episcopals...they don't believe in the so called rapture. Till last century, you know, no one did.
Christians, in the majority, consider AG churchs to be fringe, fundamentalist, and backward, as well as theologically in error.

AG is in no way 'basic' Chistianity. Not at all. Not in theory nor in practice. Most assuredly not in the style of worship.

"WE BELIEVE...The Church has a Mission to seek and save all who are lost in sin. We believe 'the Church' is the Body of Christ and consists of the people who, throughout time, have accepted God's offer of redemption (regardless of religious denomination) through the sacrificial death of His son Jesus Christ."

This is the part that causes them to try to force their religion on everyone. You can believe pretty much anything you want, just keep in out of my life and out of my government.

A Divinely Called and Scripturally Ordained Leadership Ministry Serves the Church. The Bible teaches that each of us under leadership must commit ourselves to reach others for Christ, to worship Him with other believers, and to build up or edify the body of believers–the Church.

that church can very well live down to our expectations. Most churches are content to just do their thing and leaves everyone else alone.

I wonder if they realize how far from Christ's actual teachings they have ventured.

They impose a very dark contenance upon all who attend, working hard to control every aspect of a person's life. How a woman wears her hair, whether she cuts her hair, what she wears for clothes, what she wears for make up, what she does for a living.

They're a couple clicks this side of those polygamists sects.

wow theres no problem forcing people or anything, bow to the church and its diety or be forever tortured and killed. LMAO

wow so totally benevolant and good.

i must reject thier twisted filthy doctrines.. based on that one alone.