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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:05 PM
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Subliminal Mind Control on Your TV -- NOW
This is worrisome in so many ways:

"I was watching the end of today's (1/21/07) Iron Chef and noticed the screen quickly blink red. A few seconds later I start thinking, "Was that the McDonalds logo...?" Thanks to the magic of my Dish Network DVR, I rewind, and put it in to slow motion.

"Sure enough, Food Network is allowing McDonalds to run subliminal advertisements in the middle of their programming!"

(Photo of captured still showing McDonald's logo with caption, 'I'm Lovin' it".)

http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/subliminal_advertising/


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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:06 PM
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1. Illegal
or so I thought
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:15 PM
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13. In theaters yes. But dending upon the language of the law. It may not include TV. n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:18 PM
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16. I thought theaters were OK and TV not
I remember the hew and outcry when this was first tried and quickly shut down "back in the day" :)
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:23 PM
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26. LINK to snopes article here
Actually the whole thing was pretty much bullshit but anyway

http://www.snopes.com/business/hidden/popcorn.asp
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:21 PM
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23. Actually the other way around
According to snopes, the FCC banned it from TV and radio in 1974.

The US government has no control over movie theaters, thank god. At least not in terms of general content in non-obscene films.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:17 PM
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15. not illegal
also, not proven to be effective.

And this, according to Food Network was just a glitch.

Non-effective subliminal was long ago discarded as a concept. Today we have product placement to serve the purpose.

But of course, I am sure, more than a few will not believe me.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:18 PM
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18. I do...it makes more sense with product placement
thanks
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:20 PM
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20. Yes, that's the real subliminal advertising...
but I think our willingness to actually think these corrupt fucking companies wouldn't do it is naive.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:43 PM
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30. Autohypnotic suggestion. Hypnosis is not effective on everyone.
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 03:43 PM by Wizard777
I'm one those people that can't be hypnotized. I tried it to quit smoking. I can induce myself into a trance state. But when I do. No external stimulus gets through. The world outside of me simply does not exist.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:37 PM
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36. It could be made effective
As far as we know it's not effective, but advertisers can be very clever people. It might be used in combination with other techniques and strategies. And after that, even if only 1 out of 1000 people are persuaded by it, that can have a huge impact.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:07 PM
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2. Very popular technique in movie theatres
half a split second shot of an icy cold glass of Coke.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:11 PM
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8. This conspiracy theory brought to you by 1956
:eyes:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:34 PM
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28. Conspiracies do exist, we call the successful ones government and religion.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:56 PM
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39. And those "conspiracies" are overt.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:25 PM
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44. Overt to whom?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:21 PM
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42. Touche! n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:07 PM
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3. I'd bet that was a glitch, not a subliminal ad. NT
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:09 PM
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5. that was my first thought as well. n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:13 PM
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11. Oh, this country just fucked enough, and the fucking ruling elites...
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 03:14 PM by originalpckelly
just arrogant enough to try and pull this bullshit.

I thought this thing was impossible until I saw a special on nuclear power from MSNBC, of course MSNBC is fucking owned by GE, which "pioneered" boiling water nuclear reactors!



Actually, now that I think of it, anyone who watches MSNBC is fucking owned by GE as well.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:16 PM
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Why would they try to do subliminal ads when they run MINUTE LONG ads?
It's a glitch. Someone pressed the wrong button.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:18 PM
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17. Actually, I was just pointing out the arrogance of these people...
and that I really wouldn't put anything corrupt beyond the realm of possibility with these folks. I know I sound like a fucking raving mad-man, but I can explain it if you really want me to, and once I explain it, I'm pretty confident that you'd agree with me.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:24 PM
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34. Can't you see? Ads can be dismissed as mere ads, "puffs" in English
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 04:24 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
legal parlance. We go and make a cup of tea.

Heck, if they're so desperate to impress their TV messages on our minds that they'll strain out sound levels from lower registers, to sound more shrill, what makes you think subliminal advertising would be beneath them! Once again, capitalism run amock.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:39 PM
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37. First of all, because it doesn't work.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:16 PM
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40. I Googled "Psychologial Corporation" and didn't find their site
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 05:24 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
in the least bit redolent of any kind of academic study of psychology or anything else, at least judging from their Home page.

Ostensibly, it looks like a very commercial outfit to me - as the word "coporation" would suggest. Yet I believe this was the only "authority" alleged to rebut the claims concerning the efficacy of subliminal advertising, referred to in that Snopes article. Or did I miss another disputant "authority"?

http://www.applegate.co.uk/company/12/12/466.htm

Apparently, its also called Applegate, and vaunts itself as Promotong the Best of Industry, Technology and Manufacturing in the UK and Ireland. Don't miss a trick, do they?

What do you think?

And how about the higher-volume effect of TV ads, due to the straining out of lower acoustic registers? Do they still do that? I think they do in the UK, even for the trailers of later programmes.

Working people in particular have enough stress in their lives without having ads suddenly blaring out at them, its effects nullifying their volume control, when they try to relax of an evening.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:24 PM
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27. me too, I've worked on local tv and had friends work cable. Gitches happen all the time
some day I'll tell you about the time I played the town board meeting backwards over the air :)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:08 PM
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4. Ooooo, I'm going to try to capture one too!
Lawsuit! I feel it coming!
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:11 PM
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6. My money there is on a queueing glitch
though anything's possible, I guess.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:11 PM
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7. Everything on television is a commercial.
You aren't watching shows on TV, you're merely watching a different form of advertisement for a different group of advertisers. Even movies are commercials for the actors in them and the products they can make look cool. Shows that talk about celebrities are actually commercials for commercials. We watch commercials for commercials, presented as entertainment.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:13 PM
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9. Subliminal ads were made illegal in the '50s
and then they were shown not to have any real effect on people. I'd say it was a glitch.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:13 PM
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10. I'd think Food TV would be the LAST place for
McPtomaine's to run subliminal advertising, unless they did it during the show featuring the skinny blonde who uses all the salty, preservative laden junk food in her recipes.

I mean, really! People who watch Food TV love to cook, want to learn how to cook, and are motivated to get away from fast food.

They'd have better luck running those ads during the endless motorcycle shows on Discovery.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:16 PM
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14. Oh you have doubt and outrage? Really? You don't think the people who own this country...
wouldn't be arrogant enough to try it?

MSNBC has been advertising openly a new "feature" on it's website focusing on nuclear power. Guess what? Fucking GE owns MSNBC and GE also produces nuclear reactors!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:21 PM
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22. I just read some of the articles on nuclear power. They're hardly cheerleading it.
In fact, they're quite critical.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:36 PM
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29. Why are you even thinking about nuclear power?
Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 03:37 PM by originalpckelly
Why are they even doing a story on it?

How many other stories from the main networks have you heard about nuclear energy?

Did you know that GE stands to gain financially from nuclear energy being championed, and in fact was on of a number of companies that called for a greenhouse gas cap, which would increase demand for nuclear energy?

This is like listening to Fox News in order to hear the truth about the Republican party.

Not only that, but at every turn they diminish the importance of the problems with nuclear energy.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:00 PM
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33. They're supposed to pretend it doesn't exist?
From the website today:

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:29 PM
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35. Excusez-moi? Il n'est pas clair!
Géothermique est un choix bien meilleur.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:15 PM
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12. Probably a glitch, but now I want a big mac n/t
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Done Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:19 PM
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19. You did not see a McDonald's ad.


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:20 PM
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21. The internet would be a better place to that.
Teh image you are seeing right now is not a constant image. It's lights flashing hundreds of times per second. But the brain filters out the lapses to create the constant image you think your seeing. I don't really know if the newer LCD or plasma displays do the same.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:21 PM
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24. What ISN'T a commercial on television these days?
Even sitcoms are becoming ads unto themselves. Reality shows? Forget it, they're hour-long advertisements. American Idol? It's got nothing to do with singing. The winner is chosen based on how much they can sell out.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:22 PM
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25. I was sure this was going to be about Baby Einstein... n/t
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Luckyduck Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:48 PM
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31. Makes ya wonder
WHAT THE HELL ELSE are they doing!!!???

Everyone remembers the RATS??
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:18 PM
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41. I do
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 03:55 PM
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32. "Mind Control"??!! Hahaha! Must eat McDonald's now! Pffft.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 04:53 PM
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38. SUBLIMINAL
Actually it might not be against the law hot sex when people look at the
TV screen blow job and see that little message come through eat me they
sometimes get frightened orgasm and turn away in an instant love machine
either that or they really like the way it turns out erection when you
change the channels and it happens again nice breasts.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:23 PM
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43. So, how was the Big Mac?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 05:30 PM
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45. Hard to believe that people who watch the food network would eat
At McDonalds.

It even smells rank when I walk by the place....
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