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bighughdiehl Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:03 PM
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GDP grew 3.3% my ass
Did everyone hear this past week that the economy grew at 3.3%, even though we shedded jobs again the past couple months, and I'm sure they're understating inflation as usual, and the unemployment rate must be about twice the official figure-5.5% my ass! What will it take to get people out in the streets? Do talk radio, whacko religion, dumb TV shows, Fox News, and psychopharmaceuticals constitute a perfect synergy of (sort of)mind control that is unprecedented in history? Where is the growth coming from? Do they even bother going in depth enough to make up some shit for specifics?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:05 PM
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1. And wages dropped at an annual rate of 8.4% So, what happened here?
People are once again producing more and being paid less for doing it?
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bighughdiehl Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:17 PM
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6. Wages dropped...
At a rate of 8.4%? Holy shit, I wouldn't have guessed it was that steep! THere should be some real fucking trouble soon if that keeps up for anotehr year! Huh-so, did they find that number much harder to fudge than GDP growth? It does prove the GDP growth to be bullshit, of course, so it might be a strategic mistake to not cook the wage numbers, too!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:27 PM
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8. Heard it on NPR yesterday
I had the radio on out in the shed while I was painting and they said the July numbers came in and wages were down 0.7% for the month. I can multiply well enough to figure out what that comes to as an annual rate. Stunning, isn't it? Wages decreasing at about the same rate as prices are increasing. You think we ain't fucked?
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bighughdiehl Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:56 PM
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9. Hmmmm...
I wonder if that figure isn't compared to the same month the year before, like many figures are calculated? So, 8.4% yoy may be a bit of a leap. However, I still bet the decline for the year is more than just .7%, but a whopping 8.4% would have casued more visible trouble by now. Anyone know how that figure is calculated? is it against the previous month or the same month a whole year before?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:08 PM
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2. I don't think anybody is taking that number seriously
Remember who is in charge of keeping those statistics: people appointed by George W. Bush.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:08 PM
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3. we know bu$hco is a notorious liar....why believe them now....i will never believe them
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:09 PM
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4. GDP isn't a measure of national prosperity...
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:11 PM
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5. I agree with you. These numbers are so f'n cooked I can smell the burnt fry-fat
from here.

We will have August job numbers on Friday. Should be interesting to review these numbers as well...
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 09:24 PM
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7. It went up because prices went up... right?
I mean, if people consumed the same amount, but it cost less, wouldn't that mean the GDP went down? So the reverse must also be true.

Correct me please if I'm wrong, I'm not an economist.
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