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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:48 AM
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The Palin Baby - Why a birth certificate might not matter
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 AM by REP
First, let me say upfront that I think Palin's last pregnancy is questionable at best. Sarah Palin's, that is.

I've seen the question of a birth certificate raised, as if that would resolve things one way or another. Well, actually, it may not. The elder Palins may have legally adopted their daughter's child at birth, meaning the original birth certificate is sealed, and an amended birth certificate was issued, listing the Palins (elder) as the parents. The original birth certificate would not be available to anyone, including the child, which in this case may not be an issue, given the child's reported Trisomy 21.

On edit: undoubtedly the Palins would know how to arrange a private adoption. Anyone know if there are any lawyers in he extended Palin family?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:52 AM
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1. They can get the birth certiicates from China
lol :P
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:55 AM
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2. Well is not that special?
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 AM
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3. Sarah Palin Baby Story Ender...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/31/234157/516/1017/581734

~snip~

"Unless someone has counter evidence, we can drop this crap now."

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:06 AM
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5. Photo from FR? No thanks
I can PS waaaaaaaaaaaay better than that, too.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 AM
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7. It really all depends on when the picture was taken.
Nor does it take away the new pic from tinypic.com:



According to Wikip*dia:
Palin was elected to two terms on the Wasilla, Alaska, city council from 1992 to 1996, then won two terms as mayor of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002. After an unsuccessful campaign for lieutenant governor of Alaska in 2002, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 while also serving as Ethics Supervisor of the commission.


Technically, that could be her youngest child, Piper.


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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:22 AM
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10. I thought Trig is the youngest.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:27 AM by madeline_con
Bristol is post baby there.

She has the whole pregnancy weight gain thing going.

Thanks so much for the pic.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:58 AM
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13. This picture is not dated and could be from a previous pregnancy
both glasses and hairstyle look dated
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:39 AM
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19. Flickr says that photo was taken in 2005
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 04:40 AM by bananas
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30076181@N02/2814199887/meta/in/photostream

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:47 AM
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20. as I understand it, flickr allows dates to be edited.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:03 AM
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4. True or not, why would we want the story to end? This is our swiftboat at least on her.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 AM by RGBolen
keep legs under it, make people whisper among themselves. Who cares if it's true.


edit meant to reply to reply #3
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:07 AM
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6. I think it is true
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:13 AM by REP
And if it isn't, I'm not part of the FluffyBunnyPlayNiceyWiceyPankyPoo Party. I'd like to win for a change.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:08 AM
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8. I meant to reply to reply #3. Sorry
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:13 AM
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9. No Problem!!
I left out a letter anyway.

Sentiment stands, even though it's no longer directed at you.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:28 AM
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11. I believe the baby's Bristol's.
I care if the story's true. But it would be nice to know.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:16 AM
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14. Because then we are no better
than the swiftboaters. There is so much we can and should use against Gov. Palin. Using this just reeks of immaturiy and desperation.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:39 AM
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12. Yes the birth certificate could be sealed.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:56 AM
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15. How do we know her water broke in Texas?
Was there a witness? If she was faking, why fake the water breaking out of town...wouldn't people be shocked at her flying after that?

If she was pregnant and her water broke in Texas, did she deliberately endanger the life of that child? How often does she see this child?

Someone mentioned that faking a pregnancy was like Bree on Desperate Housewives. Would this woman who named one daughter Piper,a name used in the series Charmed, and another daughter Willow, used in the series Buffy the Vampire Slayer, ever be likely to take an idea from a tv show?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:39 AM
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18. April Texas newspaper article link
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FuckYouAROCK Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:15 AM
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16. It's her daughter's baby
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 04:37 AM
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17. And the reason why she had to go home that day was to Sign the birth certificate
EVERY hospital has private entrances, and the doctor was her gal-pal who got cushy governmenatl appointments from her..

That baby was probably delivered at Gramma's house that afternoon..hence the "no hurry"...but they needed to get her and the baby into the hospital before lots of people were around, so they could make the joyful announcement the next day and have the photo op.. the one where her smile is quite forced..

She leaves right away, and no one at the hospital is likely to do any investigating and risk losing their job, so the story is over..as far as they are concerned...

UNTIL she says yes to McBlunder..
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amuse bouche Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 08:15 PM
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21. You would know that how?
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