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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 PM
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Trig is 4 months old. Bristol is 5 months pregnant.
Does this mean the fake pregnancy story is officially dead now?

Unless you think they're lying about how far along Bristol is for some reason. And since I know there will be at least one person that responds to this thread that DOES believe that they're lying for some reason, please explain the full conspiracy from beginning to now and how it makes some sense.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:15 PM
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1. And two more daughters waiting in the wings to help populate Alaska.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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26. I'm sure they have skeletons in their closets too
Somebody somewhere is poring over their school attendance records, looking at photos harvested off the internet, etc.
Nothing can be hidden these days.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:09 PM
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46. Does that mean the baby gets its $1200 from the oil companies? n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 PM
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2. So you think that someone willing to lie about parentage would shy from altering the timetable?
If, hypothetically, they were covering up an earlier pregnancy they would know they could never pull it off a second time, so the next best thing would be to act like the timeline made it impossible.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:07 PM
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10. Why has she been out of school since day 1 of her pregnancy?
She would not have been showing for at least 3 months or so..why didn't she just finish school..School ends around summer time, and she would have just about started to show by then..

I still smell a stinky salmon on a hot July day..
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:19 PM
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3. Unless there's a miscarriage.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:51 PM
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45. I hate to admit that was my 1st thought too.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:20 PM
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4. If you're willing to take a Republican's word that she's five months along, when
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:22 PM by Marr
that's just enough time to counter a rumor... then it'll put the story to rest for you. Personally, I don't trust Republicans-- especially when they're talking about potential Republican scandals.

I'd bet you $20 that young girl has an unusually long pregnancy.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:23 PM
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5. Except if you consider...
....that someone posted a picture of Bristol last night that was taken on Friday swearing that it was proof that she had to be at LEAST seven months along.......
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:30 PM
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6. I don't think that's evidence of anything.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:31 PM by Marr
Someone posted that they think she's seven months along. So what?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:09 PM
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23. Exactly:
Fool: Anyone who believes anything coming from McCain/Palin. Or any Republican hack.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:33 PM
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33. self delete
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 PM by POAS
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:54 PM
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42. I wouldn't believe them for a second in anything they say about this. Not at all.
With the GOP, all is lies in love and war. They can't tell the truth because they've lost any sense of the truth.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:39 PM
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7. My aunt had two sons
within 11 months.
Just saying.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:05 PM
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9. Was she pregnant with the second...
..... before she gave birth to the first? Just askin'
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:10 PM
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12. Those births are sometimes called "Irish Twins"..
Means Mom & dad didn't wait long to get back together, and the old wives tales are not always accurate..some women DO ovulate while breastfeeding..(waves hand in air).. I got pregnant right away after my 2nd (big surprise).. they are 12 months & 10 days apart.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:15 PM
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16. My mother
also became pregnant when I was 1 1/2 months old. That's substantially different than "while still pregnant with me".
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:16 PM
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17. My kids are 13 months & 6 days apart...
My daughter was born 4 days before hurricane andrew wiped us out... my son is a product of afterwards with nothing else to do...

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:20 PM
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29. Same deal with my younger brother & sister.
I was pre-Korea. They were post-conflict babies right on top of each other. My brother was so big that my mother was terrified when she discovered she was pregnant again so soon after giving birth. She indulged in a lot of risky behavior (jumping off ladders, starving herself, etc.) but the pregnancy stuck. My sister weighed 2+ lbs. less than my brother did. My mother felt so guilty when she saw what a skinny baby that she practically carried my sister around on a pillow afterwards.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:49 PM
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60. That's assuming that everyone is tellin' the truth.......
Just sayin''
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:59 PM
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20. My grandma had 4 kids in less than four years
:P
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:15 PM
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27. Mom's cousin too in the 1950's n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:20 PM
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56. my sister and I are the same age for three weeks
apparently Mom could not say no. And she used the 'rhythm method'. I guess her rhythm was just right!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:03 PM
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8. Thank you.
Besides the fact is that it is far, far more likely for a 40+ woman to give birth to a Down Syndrome baby than for a teenager.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:08 PM
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11. No, Bristol is "about" 5 months pregnant, and Trig is "about" 5 months old.
"Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant"
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Trig was born 6:30 am April 18, four months and two weeks ago - "about" five months ago.

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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 PM
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15. So let me get your timeline down
Bristol gets knocked up last year. A coverup on the level of the 9/11 truth movement is planned involving the entire Palin family, Levi and presumably his family, and medical personnel at the hospital.

She has the baby in April.

After forcing her mother to forge this massive conspiracy because she didn't use birth control, she...gets knocked up yet again, what, like a few days after she gave birth to Trig?

There's stupid and then there's Bristol Palin if what you're suggesting is true.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:05 PM
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22. I've known 16 year olds who got pregnant within DAYS of having a baby
And younger.

I'm not selling you on the secret birth cover-up (though it happened fairly regularly within many people's lifetimes), I'm just saying that teenage girls make that mistake far more often than you'd expect. It's self-destructiveness and irresponsibility on a frightening scale, yes, but it happens all the time to all kinds of families in every town in North America.
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tired_old_fireman Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:45 PM
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39. It sounds like what happened with the daughter of Bill McCartney--
The guy who was coach at Colorado and head of the Promise Keepers. His daughter had a baby with the quarterback(who died) and then she had a baby with I think a lineman right after the first baby was born. I'm not saying one way or the other, but that seemed totally crazy at the time.

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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:11 PM
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13. So they say. But, they haven't been very honest so far, so we'll see.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:13 PM
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14. She could have wanted to have a baby and got pregnant again right away.
A lot of women have babies 9 months apart. Trig was born April 18th. that would make her 4 and a half months. She could be lying. 2 weeks would be easy to cover up. It's common for a first child to be born 2 weeks after the due date.

Could be jealous rivalry between mother and daughter.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:17 PM
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18. Correction: Bristol is "about" 5 months pregnant.
Knowing how Republicans like to get creative with language, "about" could mean anywhere between 2 months to 4 months and 30 days.

Expect this pregnancy to go around 11 months, or a miscarriage to take place.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:37 PM
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36. Totally agree. "About" Also don't you measure pregnancies in
weeks and not months? They're playing with the numbers. The MSM is dead!!!!!!
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:23 PM
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19. I just posted something along that line .
I am looking for something to happen like a miscarriage to tie up those "loose ends".
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:00 PM
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21. so what was the 5 months out of school about?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:09 PM
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24. The mom just HAPPENED to have a secret pregnancy
While the daughter just HAPPENED to miss school for six months because of "infectious mono." I doubt that there's anyone over the age of fifty that doesn't know someone that happened to -- someone they went to school with or someone who lived down the block. A girl I went to high school with just 20 years ago missed a year of school before her parents "decided to adopt a baby brother."

It's not proof -- I'm not convinced -- but it's not like it's all that unlikely or unfeasible, either.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:29 PM
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30.  I tried to talk to my high school boyfriend about using
birth control. I asked him what would happen to his sports scholarship if I "turned up pregnant." He said, "I always thought you'd go stay with your aunt and uncle in Colorado." I broke up with him. I hadn't thought about what would happen until one of my friends told me that pulling out before ejaculation was a very unreliable method. He had though--"I ALWAYS thought," he said. That was the end of THAT romance! LOL!
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nipinbud Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:10 PM
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25. She is not pregnant
The pregnancy story is being used to prove that it is impossible that Trig is Bristol's son. The next step in the conspiracy is for Bristol to lose the imaginary baby.
I have no clue but the conspiracy thing is fun.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:41 PM
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43. That is my theory as well
The story was that Sarah had to be the mama of Trig. In order for that to be believed, Bristol only became pregnant right after her baby "brother" was born.

Bristol is not pregnant for the 2nd time. That is post preganancy weight you see. How long did it take for DU moms to lose their pregnancy fat? Some women never do.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:19 PM
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28. She was at home with the Mono when the baby was concieved...
Idle hands of the devil, I guess.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:30 PM
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31. The hands alone are not responsible, I don't care whose they are! n/t
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:32 PM
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32. Yesterday Alaska Blog -- Sue Williams blabbed about the current pregnancy
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:34 PM by kickysnana
Local folks. Williams is a neighbor and the particular blog was discussing that it was an open secret that Trig was Bristol's son and at first nobody believed her that Bristol was pregnant AGAIN.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/off-to-the-land-of-palin/

Sarah Palin's hike in high heels at 7 months

http://alaskapodshow.com/index.php/2008/02/20/my-visit-to-juneau-alaska/
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:33 PM
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34. Irish twins
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:35 PM
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35. She's not pregnant, missed school because of mononucleosis

She missed school last year for 8 months because of mono.

And a christian fundy would never lie about their 16 or 17 yr old kid getting knocked up

And if they did lie (which they dont) they would only lie one time

And I'm sure it would just be an honest mistake if they accidentally got mixed up on their dates by a month or so.

But just remember, when they lie its not really a lie... because xian fundies never lie

Got it?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:39 PM
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38. righto
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:26 PM
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49. mono doesn't last 8 months...
2 weeks to 3 months a most
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:32 PM
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57. which means that she got pregnant while she was home with mono...
if she's currently 5 months along.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:38 PM
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37. Prove to me that Bristol is actually 5 months pregnant. Or pregnant at all, for that matter.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:46 PM
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40. Didn't take her long to get back in the saddle again.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:14 PM
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54. they got to do something to keep warm don't they?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:48 PM
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41. Republicans get one day older and two days dumber...
See John McRambo.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:45 PM
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44. Trig is ALLEGEDLY 4 months old. Bristol is ALLEGEDLY 5 months pregnant.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 04:29 PM by ColbertWatcher
The Palin family is not known for their honesty, so none of what's being said by them can be believed.

(EDITED TO ADD "by them")


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goodcitizen Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:16 PM
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47. You've got to be kidding
These things are pretty easily proven. Trig has a birth certificate, and Bristol will have her child 9 months after conceiving. Quit looking for a conspiracy. I mean, its one thing to hate Republicans, its another to be a moron.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:24 PM
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48. No conspiracy needs to be "looked" for. We're dealing with GOPhers; they never tell the truth. n/t
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:29 PM
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51. the election will be in fewer months than the new baby will be born.
why trust anything they say?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:12 PM
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53. If you believe everything a Republican candidate says when caught ...
... THAT is your problem.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:30 PM
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52. Excatly! Trash is as trash does. Could easily be her second child.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:27 PM
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50. why do you believe anything they say?
I don't.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:15 PM
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55. They tell us its 5 months. She could be 1 month or 2
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 06:44 PM
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58. Maybe Bristol is trying to send a message?
If you trace back the time, do you think it might have been a cry for attention?

After all, if you back up, five months pregnant versus a four-month-old baby, then it would be around the time the baby was born that Bristol got pregnant. Which means she could have been one of those teenage girls who wants a baby because she wants SOMETHING to love her unconditionally, I suppose. That's what motivates some of them. I have also noticed a great rivalry between female siblings - my mother was one of five, my sister-in-law one of six, I think it was. There was FEROCIOUS competition for attention in both these cases. Always a subtle one-upmanship, always a low-level attempt to compare themselves favorably against whoever else it was, whether their sisters or some random surrogate for their sisters. I'm just guessing here - not a PhD nor do I play one on TV.

If the dates are off for whatever reason, and the daughter is seven months pregnant now, perhaps the same applies. Because - her mom is the governor and quite the attention-getter, enough of a looker to photograph well and attract the attention of Vogue magazine just last year and of course there's the beauty queen status, too. And she's a rather happening woman, lots of big important things to do and getting her picture taken and making speeches and catching flights to big wingdings in other states and being the celebrity of the family. Hard to live down, especially if you're also trying to carve out an identity separate from your two sisters who are fairly close to you in age. Sometimes there's rivalry between mothers and daughters just anyway, though - either overt or subtle.

I wonder if perhaps Bristol is feeling cramped by her family situation. Is she perhaps one of those many young people brought up on farms or small towns who bridles against those confines and at first chance deserts for the bright lights and the big city. You also have to consider, with people like these, they're strict fundamentalists. There may indeed have been no sex education at home, especially if the emphasis is on staunch fundamentalist Christianity - where such things are not to be spoken of and you're just supposed to say no and be chaste and deny your human impulses. Not an easy thing to do when you're a teenager in the best of cases! In such an atmosphere of suppression there can be rebellion. She goes out and has sex with her boyfriend and gets pregnant. To spite mom/mom and dad? To simply be rebellious? To be unconcerned about consequences for being sexually active - either because she doesn't know OR doesn't care OR is in denial about how this CAN happen to you? That last one would hook back into the "doesn't know." With proper sex education the boy has condoms or the girl gets the pill or at least they know what happens when you play with fire. And Bristol's mom is awfully old-fashioned, dontcha know?

I think there's a family soap opera being played out there of which we just see the surface.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:38 PM
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59. Yes, I think there is "a family soap opera being played out" ...
... if you don't already know, Governor Palin eloped then promptly had her full-term baby (Track) 8 months later.

She doesn't seem to have a problem putting everyone and everything else second to her ambition and need for attention. I guess she is the best pick for McCain.




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