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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:43 PM
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Sarah Palin should pull out of the Campaign right now....
And, I wonder if negotiations aren't going on right now because I see the latest about the pregancy of her daughter is only being reported online by Reuters and MSNBC...the Cables are doing wall to wall Gustav Coverage and I've been surfing and haven't seen the latest news about Palin mentioned.

She should gracefully exit because the a preganant unmarried daughter and the discrepancy over timelines and other odd reports about baby Trig's real mother are just going to persist on the blogs.

Nance Greggs was correct. Palin is toast. But, is it Lieberman or Mitt? Or, will one of the more qualified female Repugs step in to save the Repugs butts for this disaster? :shrug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:47 PM
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1. Imagine the vastness of her ambition
She knew the kid was knocked up when she accepted McCain's offer?

At a time when the kid needs her mother more than ever?

Where's she gonna be for the next two months? On the campaign trail?

It's that kind of "mothering" that got the kid knocked up in the first place.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:47 PM
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2. Pulling out is never an option. Apparently.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:59 PM
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6. DUzy!
:spray:
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:33 PM
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14. Damn, beat me too it
Too easy. Congrats.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:36 PM
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16. I was close to that. I was going to say the problem was not pulling out
:hi:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:36 PM
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23. .
:woohoo:
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:55 PM
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3. I suspect you'll find that
News of her daughter's pregnancy won't have any relevance to the campaign at all. As far the the other rumor.... despite being untrue, nothing at all can stop people from making things up.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 PM
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8. The 11-hour plane ride is not "made up"
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 PM
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4. well, all 18 million hillary voters are now firmly behind mcsame..so no woman need apply
he likes ole joe better than mitt, so I go with joe!
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:59 PM
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7. A dame is a dame after all! What's the difference?
Those Repubs sure are changing with the times!

:eyes:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 PM
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5. Are we sure she knows what pull out means?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:06 PM
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9. V-POTUS Interruptus ?
:evilgrin:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:19 PM
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12. LOL, a second DUzy-worthy post
on this thread!!!!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:01 PM
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17. Yes, that is the technical name for it.
:-)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:08 PM
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10. Oh, don't worry. I don't think it'll be too long
before she's forced out or forced to resign. There's just too much coming out now about her, too much dissatisfaction even within repub ranks, and they're realizing that most women, far from becoming supporters, recognize this for the blatantly pandering opportunistic and thoroughly reckless gimmick that it is, and are truly and rightfully insulted. I think they're genuinely surprised at the negative reaction and are now scrambling around trying to figure out the best way to get her off the ticket while minimizing the damage as much as possible. Besides, she wasn't even vetted, as should be obvious by now. If she were, she would never have been approved by his campaign advisors, given all of the shit that's now coming out on her. Especially the ethics investigations.

You know it's bad when her own mother-in-law doesn't understand "what she brings to the ticket" and is strongly considering voting for Obama. And the nonsense about her being experienced in foreign policy due to Alaska's proximity to Russia is so stupid, laughable and pathetically dumb that it barely even merits discussion. Her own head of the AL National Guard has said that they have no dealings whatsoever with Russia or any other foreign entity, that's all the federal responsibility that the governors have no control or responsibility over. And AL's next to Siberia, not Moscow, that's a whole continent away.

She is McSame's Harriet Miers and he is really being damaged by it. Tee hee, giggle titter.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 PM
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11. They'll Play The Pity Card
Koko, remember we're dealing with the most cynical and calculating, callous people on this planet. They can rely on their corporate media toadies to frame things from their perspective and try to turn this shit into prime rib. They'll huff and puff if the children and even Palin herself is attacked and draw attention away Palin and Gramps lack of judgement. Dare I use the Clintonian rejoiner that this is not about the sex, but about the matter of responsibility and accountability.

Pounding too hard will draw the attention to the sex, not the substance of this woman being qualified...her abysimal parenting "skills" and how she put her children second to her own ambitions. The focus needs to be on why she handed off her children to others to deal with, such as going back to work 3 days after giving birth to a severly handicapped child rather than taking time off or even resigning to dedicate her time to helping that child in its critical first years of life. It also reflects on a daughter who engaged in what could be construed as not only risky behavior but also as a sign of lonliness and even contempt for parents who weren't around and the lack of both responsible sex education and contraception. It even goes to the heart of Senator Obama's discussion of preventing unwanted preganancies and personal responsibility.

I agree with Nance that Palin is a walking timebomb of corruption and deception and that when she becomes too big a liability, her corrupt party will dump her like a first wife and then say that they "tried" to advance a woman, but those mean, ugly, Democrats were the ones who forced this.

In a strange, perverted way, they may even see this as justification to keep her on the ticket for a while to milk the money and votes...turn her into a pity case. Shamless and cynical to degrees beyond belief.

:hi:

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:31 PM
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13. more to the point - what does it say about mccain's judgement?
couple articles mention that mccain KNEW before he tapped palin as VP

was is good judgement to try and hide it? was it good judgement to allow the rumors to fester and grow for 3 days?

if he didn't know - why not? wasn't palin vetted adequately? who actually did the vetting and who tasked the with the vetting?

waiting in the wings is Troopergate and


Dairygate -- MATANUSKA MAID DAIRY CLOSURE
When on June 6, 2007, the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for More.. the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin realized that the Board of Agriculture and Conservation appoints Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation.<19><61> The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy.<61> The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.<62> In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.<63><64>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

http://www.adn.com/matmaid/story/201323.html

http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/story/8958206p-8873774c.html

---and more:

1997 - almost recalled as mayor: FOES BACK OFF THEIR PUSH TO RECALL MAYOR

S.J. Komarnitskyhttp://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AS&p_theme=as&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0F79408854D0C20B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM
Daily News Reporter
Date: February 11, 1997
Publication: Anchorage Daily News (AK)
Page: B1

A recall of Mayor Sarah Palin is off the table, at least for now, according to a group calling itself Concerned Citizens for Wasilla. The group of about 60 residents was formed Friday in response to Palin's controversial firing of Police Chief Irl Stambaugh. Members say they're concerned about the direction taken by Palin since her election last fall, and discussed a recall. But members of the group decided instead they first want to hear Palin's explanations.

why? What led to this? Seems she fired the city police chief and library director.
Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin fired the city's police chief and the library director without warning Thursday, accusing them of not fully supporting her efforts to govern. Irl Stambaugh and Mary Ellen Emmons said letters signed by Palin were dropped on their desks Thursday afternoon telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13 and that they no longer needed to report to work.


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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:32 PM
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21. This is what I don't understand--
1) If Palin is such a god-fearing conservative "family values" person, why would she think that accepting a nomination or, hell, being ELECTED Vice President of the US would be a good thing for her family right now, especially with several children, one of whom has special needs and is still an infant?

2) Re McCain and the others who allowed him to pick Palin--how can anyone think that these persons have any type of "values" at all if they were to allow Palin to be picked when she has all these issues? How was that selection process admirable and desirable? I now think that article in the NYT (??) about the R's vetting process was pure horseshit. McCain picked her out of a hat with no consideration as to all the baggage she's carrying.

3) Just an aside--this girl is how many months pregnant and NO ONE in Alaska came up since Friday and told a reporter? She never even told a girlfriend and she's how many months along? How can that be? It makes me truly doubt that she is pregnant. I feel sorry for her--her life has just been orchestrated by the GOP.

This is dangerous territory for Democrats; we need to be careful how we proceed. However, I do think this will cause so much commotion and pull away from McCain that she will have to step down. And since their convention is basically only going to be one day, they won't end up on national television with pie on their faces.

Lord have mercy, what a weekend this has been . . . . :crazy:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:34 PM
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15. The longer they wait the bigger a mess it will be for them.
And right now in the middle of Gustav and the approaching Hannah would be the perfect time. I suspect they chose a holiday to announce the pregnancy for the "down the news hole" reason. But they should have just cut her loose. Of course, who in their right mind wants the position? Oh yeah, LIEberman, if you think he's in his right mind.

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:05 PM
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18. I agree, but that would give the Big Mac a second chance
. . . and he might choose somebody who could at least handle the job of being president.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:16 PM
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19. Something about this does not ring true
Everyone makes it sound like McCain picked her all by hisself.
No RNC input.
No Neo-con input.
No Karl Rove input, no Cheney, etc.
Just up and decided, and trotted her onstage.

That is not the way it works.

usually these things are vetted for weeks, run by pollsters, etc.

So, why would RNC do this?

A. They know they will lose election and just don't give a damn.
( Unlikely, given all the investment in money and oil and war and playing World Monopoly of the last 12 years)

B. They know picking 2 empty suits is great for the real behind the scenes shadow government of Cheney and PNC .
( Very likely, for same reasons as answer to A)

C. They know a terrorist attack is going to make elections a moot point.
( Quite likely. Look how well The Georgia thing was staged)
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:18 PM
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20. McCain loves this situation - no interest in anything but Palin babies
by anyone.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:34 PM
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22. Rove & the Bush Crime Family pushed hard for Mitt.
McClown wanted Lie-berman. The GOP were strongly against Lie-berman & Ridge was out due to his Pro-Choice position. Pawlenty & Crist were axed, as well. McClown & is Lobbiests decided on a willd card to shake up the race. They figured that she would solidify the base, esp. the Rwing Fundies. They were correct about that. She is a Fundie Fruitcake.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:06 PM
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24. CNN "Breaking News" that Palin has hired a Lawyer for TrooperGate!
Andrea Mitchell said it was just her "partisan opponents" pushing this.........
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:17 PM
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25. BTW...I have no doubt that Repug Higher Ups and PTB are trying to Ditch Palin
as a "Liability" into the wee hours of the night. John McCain is proving to be a disastor...and they are hoping a better Veep pick might pull him out...because he's only a "Figure Head" for the "Controlling Globalists."

The Midnight Oil is going to be burning as Hurricanes tear up all their BASE...and more revelations about Palin come forward.

Repugs have alot of dirty stuff on their plate ...and many of them are not wanting to eat it and get sick about it.

CRISIS IN THE REPUG PARTY is being HIDDEN...but don't bet for a moment that they aren't in Chaos!
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