"It Started In Iran". - Democratic Underground

FlyingSquirrel

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:51 PM
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"It Started In Iran".

The first words from the RNC's shameful 9-11 video tells us everything we need to know about what will happen if McCain is elected. The neocons are just getting warmed up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFNPi5mOVh4

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:53 PM
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1. Wah? "It" started either in Saudi Arabia or in Afghanistan.

Won't someone come out and say it plainly?

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Kutjara

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:56 PM
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4. "It" actually started in London or, more recently, Washington.

Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:57 PM by Kutjara

Decades of bungled Middle East policies from successive governments in the UK and here created this mess. We exploited the hell out of the locals for our own geopolitical and economic ends, and are now appalled that some of them hate us with murderous intensity. The surprise is not that there are some terrorists who are Middle Eastern. The surprise is there aren't far more.

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Prefer

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:54 PM
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2. The word "They" was also used

Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:55 PM by Prefer

to conflate muslims and terrorists.

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SharonAnn

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:55 PM
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3. Perhaps it's true. Our CIA helped overthrow Mossadegh and put the Shah in place.

Mossadegh was elected. The Shah was not.

The Iranian mullahs and the populace then eventually overthrew the America-friendly Shah and held the Americans in the embassy hostage.

So, if it started in Iran, then it started with America and its CIA.

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FlyingSquirrel

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:27 PM
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10. Perhaps it is. But let's conveniently leave out WHY and just start bombing, k?

:think:

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stillcool

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:29 PM
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11. that's what I was thinking...

but of course that is not the way they meant it. Since Iraq didn't start it, Iran must have, which is why we must..bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. The more bizarre this shit gets the more frightened I become. Must take a break for sanity's sake.

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karynnj

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Fri Sep-05-08 04:59 PM
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5. OMG that is disgusting

They are conflating everything that has ever happened involving Islamic countries. The shiite fundamentalists in Iran had nothing to do with the Sunni Al Queada people. There is a truer link to having armed the mujahadim and their Arab buddies to be our surrogates in fighting the USSR to Al Queada. That should be the lesson learned - especially because ot is a practice we used for at least 50 years - arming thugs to fight peoplewe don't like.

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Taverner

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:05 PM
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7. The winners write the history books or the history book writers are the winners

Not sure which

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karynnj

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:20 PM
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8. For a while, yeah

but it also seems that in each generation, there are a few curious people whose passion is to find a contrary view of established wisdom that they can find sufficient support to write a fascinating book that turns the history as we know it on its head. They unfortunately are the exceptions and most books are pretty derivative of the ones before them. I would imagine this time with the wealth of diverse conflicting original material will be wonderful for the former type of historians. (Imagine researchers looking at You tubes and blogs.)

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Taverner

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:23 PM
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9. The Information Explosion is something the history book writers didn't anticipate

I still say it, the future is the net...

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timtom

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:40 PM
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12. And this conflation has been going on for a very long time

I remember many movies in the 70's and on where the bad guys were Middle Eastern (but don't ask me to list them...)

Oh, yeah, then there have been problems with Libya, for example, since the 18th century ("...to the shores of Tripoli")

Yup! The Ay-rabs are the bad guys, no doubt.

(I don't use sarcasm emoticons)

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taterguy

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Fri Sep-05-08 05:05 PM
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6. It started when American developed a voracious appetite for oil

But try to tell folks that they drive too much.

Good luck with that.

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