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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:02 PM
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Florida Republicans gloat and pat themselves on the back over GOP convention.
I just love it when they do that. They show their true colors. They are proud of their divisiveness, proud of their attack style politics.

They sound like little children. They really are proud of how things went down in Minnesota.

From the Ledger Tallahassee Bureau. Their subject line gets it right at least.

Attack politics take the place of discussion about solving problems.

First let's hear from that good old Christian fundamentalist, AG Bill McCollum.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, speaking to Florida's delegation Thursday morning, applauded Rudy Giuliani's passionate attacks Wednesday night on Obama.

"Rudy Giuliani sliced and diced," said McCollum. "Here's a guy that took the other guy apart, and we loved that last night."

He said Arizona Sen. John McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin were a potent duo, "and I also know the bad guys know that," referring to the Democrats. "This is going to be a knockdown, drag-out fight."


Bill McCollum, family man, Christian...loves him some "slicing and dicing."

House Speaker Marco Rubio, Jeb's shadow, talked about how Obama wanted to bring European style socialism to this country....how it was all about Obama's journey of personal discovery.

Now let's hear from that media person, Susan MacManus, who pretends to be neutral. We all know she is Republican to the core....yet is used as an impartial spokesperson by Florida media. It's okay, most of us know better.

Susan MacManus, a political scientist at the University of South Florida, attended both party conventions for a Tampa TV station. She said many Americans view politics like a "reality show" on TV and were hungering for a new character like Palin. She said the GOP's base may now be as excited as Obama's. "I came here like many others expecting it not to reach that level," she said. "But it has, and it's due to the addition of a fresh face. I would put the enthusiasm level now as equal, which is a huge win for (Republicans) because the enthusiasm gap was so huge."


Susan MacManus fell in love with Sarah Palin's new face in the party.

Republican party state chairman, Jim Greer, gets off the talking points and insists it is all about not attacking, that the country is tired of that kind of poliitics.

"Lieberman has it right, the country is tired of the personal rhetoric and the personal attacks," Greer said. Asked why both were so prevalent this week, Greer said it was a political need to draw a line between the two candidates.


They love Joe Lieberman here in Florida. He's their buddy.

The chants carried the day for some delegates. "Drill baby drill" was one of the most popular.

Greer had arranged for the state's female delegates to be on the floor as Palin spoke, waving orange scarves in the air. Among them was Erika Barger, the youngest Florida delegate at age 20, from Ormond Beach. "We were so excited," she said. "We just wanted to chant with the rest of the crowd. We chanted "U.S.A." We chanted "Sarah" and we chanted "drill, baby, drill," a call to expand oil drilling immediately.


Oh, and yes, Marco Rubio really did compare Obama to Marx.

Conventional musings

Rubio said that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama "is a compelling candidate" and conceded Obama's rise is a classic American success. But Rubio said Obama would create a classic American nightmare. "The Democrats are using our language to pitch their socialist plans," said Rubio, calling Obama's economic plan "European-style socialism."

"Fifty percent would pay taxes, fifty percent would pay no income tax," said Rubio. "Marx would be pleased."


Many were especially proud of their "national treasure", Jon Voight.

Whispers quickly spread that former Gov. Jeb Bush would be a "surprise speaker." Instead, it was Jon Voight, the star of Deliverance, Midnight Cowboy and National Treasure - a Disney movie. Many attendees split during Voight's speech for a 10-minute walk for a bus ride to the hotel well after midnight.


Charlie Crist was not there, supposedly because of all the hurricanes. But most there were proud that the hate-filled, divisive tactics of Karl Rove permeated the convention.

The conventional wisdom is that Karl Rove ripped his britches in 2006, when massive GOP losses upended his hopes of an enduring Republican majority. Rove himself has denied he's an adviser this year to the McCain campaign. He downplays his conversations with Team McCain as merely "chit-chat." But yesterday's shakeup in the McCain camp suggests the Rovians are on the ascendance.

Political strategist Steve Schmidt in now in charge of daily operations. He's a Rove protégé, and his elevation is evidence of increasing influence of Rove-trained operatives in the McCain camp. White House and Bush campaign veteran Nicolle Wallace has joined Team McCain as a senior adviser. And yesterday's shakeup has put the unflappable Greg Jenkins, Bush's highly regarded political advance man, joining the communications effort.


The campaign, the convention, the Florida Republicans, priding themselves on their tactics of ridicule and destruction.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:03 PM
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1. I, of course, think they are all just nuts. And mean, too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:58 PM
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6. There is a mean streak.
Agreed.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:22 PM
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2. "and I also know the bad guys know that, referring to the
Democrats". This is how they proudly speak about other Americans, as 'bad guys.' A perfect example of why I would never vote for anyone with "R" next to their name.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:53 PM
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4. Yes, they refer to us as the "bad guys"
and that is how they think of us.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:30 PM
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3. I've come to the conclusion
...that the entire Republican party is made up of nit-witted children and criminal scum.

"Bad guys". "Evil doers".

Geez, you could find a higher level of conversation in a kindergarten class.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:14 PM
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5. Agreed. The level of their converation is very low.
They speak in talking points, memes. They have done it for years and don't realize they are doing it.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:24 AM
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7. Hi madfloridian!
Thanks for keeping us up to date on the FL goings-on of the RNC. I'm in grad school at the University of South Florida and saw Susan MacManus on a local political roundtable on TV last weekend- didn't know she was a Republican partisan. I'll pay more attention to what she says from now on!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:29 AM
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8. It's easy to miss because she is presented as neutral.
She even served on Jeb's Florida Election Commission. But then again, in Florida it is hard to tell them apart.

She sounds good unless you really pay attention.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:09 PM
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18. Looky what I found on MacManus... very interesting. Thought you'd like this.
Also be sure to read the comments at the end of the blog. When I post stuff about Florida, I have people come here to admonish me just like that comment on that 2005 post.

Watch it sometime if I post something controversial. Someone immediately appears to "set me straight".

http://www.flapolitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=243

"As of June, 2004: "MacManus has served as an adviser to the governor and was a member of his transition team. Jeb Bush also appointed her to the Florida Elections Commission, which she chaired until 2003. Currently, she's a member of the Governor's Council of Economic Advisors." Her ties to Bush are rarely mentioned in the many stories in which she is quoted.

Indeed, MacManus is routinely quoted as some sort of professional "neutral". Here's the best summary on bias: "GOPundit".

Blue :: Who Is Susan MacManus?
Some tid bits from the article (there's much more):

- "She routinely takes a negative spin on Democratic candidates. When Janet Reno was seen as Jeb Bush's chief rival in 2002, MacManus spoke in article after article about how Reno's Parkinson's disease made voters uneasy, as if she were repeating a mantra from Republican headquarters."

- "The Associated Press' Brendan Farrington reported MacManus' belief that the Republicans were embarking on 'absolutely brilliant politics' in the presidential election."

She was also slammed by Media Matters earlier this year: "Sign of the Times? NY Times, St. Petersburg Times misrepresented political ties of individuals praising Jeb Bush's handling of Schiavo case" ("The New York Times reported MacManus's assertion that Bush is 'a very ideologically consistent person' who is 'putting politics aside' in the Terri Schiavo case").

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:38 AM
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9. Here's hoping they remain clueless and keep it up through the election. n/t
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:55 AM
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10. Since I believe the polling process to be rigged, is their another way to quantify
these "demographics"? Surely the DNC or the Obama Campaign has a statistician that does more than divine numbers. There needs toexist a means to counter the lying (or skewing/flaws) of the polls and newscasts that KEEP the meme that the election is CLOSE.

I cannot believe the election is close at all, but media sensationalizing continuously wears on the spirit. And is there a Dem plank that states an initiative to fight election criminality--it seems almost a taboo subject?

More questions and worries than the average bear...........sorry this is slightly off topic.

NoFederales
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:06 AM
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12. I agree with you and Michael Moore....I don't trust the polls at all.
I think they are being manipulated. Moore said so openly on Larry King.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:39 AM
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11. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Around here, they don't have to.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:01 PM
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13. It's crazy
At my Dad's old company in Lauderdale (they basically canned him, or "eliminated his position"- he was an Exec. VP), the President of the company quoted Batista in a company-wide e-mail.

Needless to say, my Dad, a non-fascist, and he DID NOT get along AT ALL. They're shameless and not afraid to flaunt their fascist, power-grabbing tactics.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:09 PM
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14. I once saw this documentary of a major crime lord. May have been
Al Capone. They were interviewing this fat old blonde broad, (Unfortunately, the image that just flashed in your mind, though stereotypical, is exactly what she looked like), and she was in her sofa chair talking about the good ole days when she was his girlfriend and how lavish and generous he was to the people in the neighborhood and how good she felt about herself because she was part of his life. She never once criticized him, nor suggested that her adulation of him was improperly placed. That fat old broad, and how quickly she sold herself out to a gangster, is exactly what I think about Floridians who have drank the Kool-Aid.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:36 PM
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15. Totally
The Florida power structure is like a combination of fascism, cronyism, good-ole boy network, ganster style "government"- and no one seems to notice or care.

Now that Bu$h is unpopular, I've heard many conservatives admit his failings and distance themselves from him as a person. But they still support his tactics and policies without question. It's infuriating!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:41 PM
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16. Just found this video: FL Republican head butts ABC cameraman
when he tries to interview him after finding him at a party with Tom DeLay during the convention. John Mica, R-FL

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5709582

FL Republicans, just very different than others. FL Democrats...in midst of identity crisis.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:53 PM
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17. They are unabashed hypocrites. Just watch what they do when the other side does likewise ....






Every damn time. :eyes:
















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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:27 PM
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19. LOL...exactly what they do. Whine and cry and stamp feet.
:hi:
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