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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:39 PM
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Jesus Christ was a Community Organizer. Pontius Pilate was a Governor
Can't remember if I heard this on Thom Hartmann or Mike Malloy show....

Anyway, could be used as a rebuttal to the smug, patronizing remark made by Sarah Palin.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:42 PM
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1. Indeed ...



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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:42 PM
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2. it needs to be a bumper sticker
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:38 PM
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17. No it doesn't
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 08:38 PM by dflprincess
the Reich is already making snide remarks about Obama being a miracle worker (or his supporters thinking he is) we'd only be playing into their hands with that kind of bumper sticker.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:44 PM
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3. er... cute and all. but really...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 06:45 PM by enki23
During his lifetime, Jesus was (so far as we can tell) the leader of a small cult who encouraged people to submit to authority, obey their masters, and withdraw from society.

Pontias Pilate, who we are much more knowledgeable about, was an actual governor though. So that part's right anyway.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:49 PM
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5. I'd like to see the republicans try to make your point about Jesus...
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:49 PM
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6. me too, though it wouldn't be nearly enough to make me actually like them
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:55 PM
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8. Heh
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 06:56 PM by BeFree
Try telling them Jesus was homeless, too. See, they hate homeless folks.

Then watch their heads spin. You'll be like an exorcist, you will!
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:30 PM
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11. No place in the Bible does it say Jesus was homeless.
He had a skilled trade and was the son of a person with a skilled trade. Those folks weren't homeless in that society.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:39 PM
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12. Is your head spinning yet?
Because he did wander about the country as an adult. Staying in places that accepted him. Did he ever go to work as an adult? Did he ever go home? Did some people have homes then, and some, like Jesus, did not? No place in the bible does it say he had a home. The dude was homeless. He ate and slept in by the kindness of others.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:47 PM
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13. Your head must have been spinning for a long time.
If you can compare the experience of Jesus with U.S. homeless then enjoy your extremely edited version of the Bible.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:52 PM
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14. Oh, that's right
Jesus had a mansion where he threw parties and entertained celibrities.

He had the biggest, best garden ever.

He left all his worldly goods to... to... uhm.... who?

Ya know, your problem is you put Jesus and God into a little box and claim: look! I found it! I know all there is to know about Jesus and God, cause it says so right there, in that little box. No wonder some folks don't believe.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:38 PM
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23. You truely have an irrational fear of Christianity.
But I could care less if you believe or not.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:59 PM
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22. Besides, Jesus not only had a trade, he was a carpenter.
The Bible says he stayed with a lot of people, but just because it doesn't describe his home doesn't mean he didn't have one. I find it as hard to believe he was homeless as I would find it to believe in a shoeless cobbler.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:52 PM
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7. Er ... Killjoy ....
Jesus us actually depicted in different, contrary positions .... That's what make his image so enigmatic, and which also provides any sort of 'christian' support for all sorts of conflicting positions ....

Nevertheless: The point of this statement is as polemic, and, being against a party that invokes the image of Christ, a useful argument to refute them directly when they use that line if argument ...

As an atheist and secular humanist, I think it is a delicious and VERY effective counter-argument, and I am glad others use it, notwithstanding your complaint ....
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:12 PM
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10. not really a complaint, just... irritated at jesus being in politics
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:12 PM
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9. Submit to authority and obey their masters?
I don't think so..He was always calling the authority's snakes and hypocrites, and he ran the money changers out of the temple...that sounds like a tarra st in todays tight wing thinking.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:59 PM
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18. looks like some folks need to reread their bibles
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:19 PM
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15. Submit to authority ... withdraw from society ...

Those aren't entirely compatible propositions.

The individual to whom we attribute the name "Jesus" was a rebel, opposed to the entrenched power structure. That's what the Jesus Cult was about.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:46 PM
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4. good one, Postman
:)

:thumbsup:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:28 PM
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16. I had just added it as my sig line when I saw your post. Son
read it somewhere on the series of tubes and quoted it to me.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:08 PM
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20. Very good!
How you be? :hug: and George?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:16 PM
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21. Son and I are good. He is getting ready to do some traveling.
Am putting this on a T-shirt. I have been driving them crazy for two months with my "I think...therefore, I am an Elitist. But lately, they have been looking at me like they might have a comeback, so puff, time to change. This one will drive them cRaZZZZy.

How are you and Son? How old is he now? I felt so bad for him in Wash DC when he couldn't roam like the big boys.

And have you heard from PuraVitaDreamin lately?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:07 PM
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19. Hey. I like that!
:applause:
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:40 PM
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24. Excellent!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:43 PM
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25. Swish
Nothing but net. Love it.
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