Have you seen these high fructose corn syrup commercials?

I saw one the other day and I couldn't believe it. I thought it was a joke at first. This is propaganda at it's finest.

Here is the one I saw on TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbRxTOyGf0

And another...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVsgXPt564Q

I try to avoid it but it's difficult. I have to read every damn label.

Fortunately I am lucky to live somewhere that has lots of fresh, reasonably priced produce.

Jones Pure Cane Soda.

Real sugar and delicious. But avoid their diet stuff-horrible.

I really like the bottles, since they have screw tops, I saved mine for some homemade root bear later.:beer:

I also liked the sugar free Root Beer. The rest of it sucks though.
Duckie

Does ´when used in mooderation´ include drinking 62-oz fountain drinks from 7-11?

it's in everything. So even if you're trying to use it moderately, it's awfully hard to do so. I've read some articles that point to high fructose corn syrup as a major cause of obesity - worse for your metabilism than sugar.

It's actually so highly refined that there's nothing TO metabolize. So unless you burn it off right away, which isn't likely, except for athletes chugging Gatorade during a game, it's going right into the bloodstream, and from there, deposited into fat cells.

Unfortunately the franken-corn industry is as well connected to the government - especially the Bush Crime Family - than you can expect these ads to take over TV just like their other friends in the pharmaceutical and energy industries. In fact, Monsanto is in all three of these areas, after buying Searle Pharmaceuticals several years ago, and now weaseling their way into the biofuels business.

Good; let them use it in biofuels. Keep it out of food.

The frivolous use of corn is has led to absurdly quick inflation of dairy, meat, and agricultural products that has starved much of the world to death. Enough already.

Most cattle outside the US are grass fed, which produces much healthier meat. Corn has no nutritional value.

:)

We won't be seeing those ads here.

Our little Town was the first in the US to ban TransFats in the restaurants and plastic bags in our grocery stores (they charge for paper bags, too).

These probably plays well to the Cain/Pallin crowd...

:dem:

I showed my husband these commercials (thanks for those links) and he said, "Well, honey...even Hitler had a publicist."

What I have to say about HFCS. Yes, in moderation, it's not going to kill you. The problem is...it's in everything and
in many cases, high doses.

Furthermore, HFCS is a substitute for other, more healthy choices. For example, Yoplait yogurt has HFCS in it. Ok, a
cup isn't going to kill my kids. However, if they eat Yoplait daily, in addition to all of the other products that have
HFCS, it adds up.

Plus, the opportunity cost of the Yoplait with HFCS, is healthier choices, such as a banana or some almonds and fresh apple.

It's not just about what you're eating...it's about the alternatives that are not saturated with sugar.

BTW--cyanide is derived from apple seeds. Many bad things are derived from natural foods. That doesn't mean that we should eat them.

http://www.browncowfarm.com/
No bovine growth hormones either :)

I'm serious, try to cut it out and see how much weight you lose and how much better you feel. Also, it is made using genetically modified organisims now, so if that is a worry to you, be doubly afraid.

I started a simple diet and exercise plan a couple of months ago and HFCS was one of the main things I was told to avoid. It took a long time to figure out what it WASN'T in.

I'm down 26lbs so far and feel great

:shrug:

Seems like we could make it hip to not have HFCS and producers will advertise they don't use it.

-Hoot

Been searching for the past few years and have yet to find one.

I've often thought that a place like Whole Foods or Trader Joe's, which do provide lists of foods, say, that are gluten-free or vegetarian, would provide a real service and a great draw for customers if they did create such a list.

They sneak it into whole-grain breads, pastas, and cookies, even if they're labeled 'natural' or 'organic'. They sneak it into condiments too.

I eat vegetables, fruits, nuts, some dairy (cheese, cream), and meat. Occasionally we splurge on ice cream, but it's from a local farm and they use REAL sugar and not HFCS.

I read the labels on just about EVERYTHING. And I'm pretty sure Whole Foods doesn't carry anything with HFCS in it because they don't carry many Tofutti items. I think they also avoid products with hydrogenated oils. If you like yogurt, there's Whole Soy & Company soy yogurt that's pretty good with Nature's Path granola cereals.

And if you aren't sure what an ingredient is, don't buy the thing, check it out, and see how scary it is. If it's relatively benign, you can buy it next time at the store.

Unfortunately, stuff with natural ingredients is more expensive than stuff without, but crap is cheap.

That way I know where my food came from. I'm allergic to soy (and wheat) so I've had a b*tch of a time trying to find treats like ice cream and chocolate without soy lecithin. I found Vivani Chocolate, which is really tasty. The 85% is particularly good.

Natural stuff is more expensive. DH is always complaining about our food bills!

I wonder how many cases of diabetes are due to HFCS?

"Oh, shit, all those drugs I did in the sixties are coming back to haunt me!"

It couldn't have been real, I thought, and wrote it off to a quick hallucination.

No one, no industry, is THAT craven, I decided.

Wrong.

Can't blame the drugs.

These people are incredible. I read all the labels and refuse to buy anything with HFCS in it.. Keeps life simple, but I have the luxury of being able to make a lot of my own basic foods - ketchup, mayonnaise, salad dressings, stuff like that.

We're not obese enough as a nation, is that it?

as a stammering buffoon who can think of NO reasons why HFCS is bad, just that it is.

Jah.

I hope some group (???) comes out with some counter-ads.

At first I thought it was some kind of joke.

I haven't seen it yet, but hope to.

http://www.kingcorn.net/

SO much corn is grown to be made into syrup its basically tasteless in the field.

yes, it's hard. you have to read every damned label. We have had to change ketchup brands, bread--everything--- and it has been worth every minute.

We just scored a case of Mexican Coca Cola from Costco. The taste took both of us back twenty years--it was awesome.

Marked Kosher for Passover

It can't have corn syrup- it's real sugar

It's becoming more and more available in supermarkets. I think even Costco has it now.

The Mexi-Coke still beats the Passover release, because it's in the glass bottles. I try to avoid drinking anything out of plastic, because it's another petroleum by product and not easily biodegradable/recyclable thing that we don't need.

Glass is easier to recycle, and if they need to make more, I'm reasonably sure we won't run out of sand any time soon.

fiasco back in the eighties?
It was all about hiding the switch from cane sugar to HFCS.

Just asking.

After all, I have no doubt that Southern Illinois produces corn syrup... and ethanol. Corn is an American staple, unlike sugar, which is imported.

I'm not going to even suggest that we need to be adding ANY sweeteners to most of our daily foods. But I honestly don't know how to rank sugar, vs. beet juice, vs. corn syrup vs. maple syrup, vs. molasses, vs. pear and grape juice. They are all natural sweeteners which have been processed in some way before we eat them.

Instead of being annoyed about sugar vs. corn syrup in beverages, why not just remind people that they SHOULD be drinking WATER?

rather than any important intrinsic difference between the two. But google and decide for yourself.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=high+fructose+corn+syrup+compared+to+sugar&btnG=Google+Search&num=100

I can't remember the physiology off the top of my head, but basically refined fructose causes very big yo-yo effects in the levels of insulin and glucogon in the blood stream compared to other sugars, and too much of that yo-yo-ing is not good for the pancreas, and thus increases one's risk of developing diabetes, or something to that effect.

the increased incidence of diabetes in the general population is a huge reason to ban it. people who have never had diabetes in their families are getting it.

He said it was worse than sugar for your teeth.

i'll have to ask my dentist about that next appointment. you know that if the "corn industry" is pushing this so hard, their bottom line must be taking a hit! vampires, they are! :grr:

Several recent studies have shown that fructose is processed differently in the body than the far more common sugar, glucose (3,4). Glucose causes the pancreas to release insulin which drives sugar from the bloodstream into cells. Glucose causes fat cells to release leptin that makes you feel full so you eat less. Glucose prevents the stomach from releasing ghrelin that makes you hungry. On the other hand, fructose does not cause fat cells to release leptin and does not suppress ghrelin. This means that fructose increases hunger to make you eat more. Furthermore, the liver converts fructose far more readily to a body fat called triglyceride, than it does with glucose. High triglyceride levels raise blood levels of the bad LDL cholesterol and lower blood levels of the good HDL cholesterol, which increases heart attack risk.

http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/3021.html

A single Google 'hit', even from a person with credentials, isn't the last word, but it's a good place to start.

pnorman

The chemical that your body makes when full is not activated by HFCS so your brain does not signel enough. a study showed it raised cholesterol and triglicerieds more than a diet with equal amounts of other sugars. Another study showed a diet w/hfcs increased fat around organs more than a diet with other sugars which increased fat but in less dangerous areas.

Now I did find mention of studies that don't show any effects but I can't help but wonder if they were done well. Corporations have bad records of pulling fast ones in studies like the one to find out if certain chemicals which were belived to act like hormones and maybe cause breast cancer really did that. So what did they use for the study? Lab mice which lack the receptors for hormones so there was no way for the chemicals to effect the mice! Then there was a study that was reported on the news as 'proving' oat bran did not effect high cholesterol. This study was performed on healthy men who's cholesterol levels were already in the normal range so who cares if it doesn't lower their cholesterol!

Limiting Fructose May Boost Weight Loss, Researcher Reports
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080724064824.htm

Consumers are raising cane over corn sweetener
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-soda2-2008aug02,0,3762938.story?track=rss

HFCS, the kind most typically used in foods, is 55% fructose and 45% glucose.

Table sugar is 50-50.

Sorry but it's hard to believe that HFCS is pure evil. Honey has a similar 55% fructose content, but nobody screams about that.

The general problem like you say is over-sweetening. With ANY sweetener.

Instead of being annoyed about sugar vs. corn syrup in beverages, why not just remind people that they SHOULD be drinking WATER?

Absofuckinglutely.

only additive to worry about.

Don't answer. I know why.

I was shocked!

The silver lining is that it's a symptom of something good - that they are starting to have to worry about their reputation. It's like when Walmart started running commercials talking about how much they help local communities - they wouldn't have had to do that, except that people had caught on what they were about.

Hopefully most viewers will sense this and think, wait a minute...

The only reason Ethanol is driving food prices up is because so much corn is WASTED on HFCS.

The amount of corn turned into fuel ethanol is probably already
far greater than the amount of corn turned into HFCS. Or maybe
you were being sarcastic?

Tesha

Seriously.

what a steaming pile of shite! "natural", my ass! the less informed will watch this commercial and fall for okey doke :(

That said, I was rather stunned when I saw one of the ads on my teevee.

Hekate

Every time I'm exposed to the current state of the "art", I'm amazed that, yes, it can still get worse. The people that create this shit must have tapped some kind of negative feedback loop that allows them insight into some heretofore unimagined depth of inanity.

Maybe it gives them access to a parallel dimension, the idiot dimension?

Kind of like the ads for Halliburton that came out just around the time that the company was being vilified for its role in Iraq.

I'm back to the size I was in college, and that's SWEET, baby!

It takes a little effort at the beginning, but once you identify the "yes" foods, it's smooth sailing!

I still can't believe they put those out. Propaganda indeed.

Then there's only one meal for you!

DU approved! Dirt! It's what's for dinner!


Otherwise, you might as well just go slaughter the homeless.

and it won't make you blind or kill you if you don't have too much!

:sarcasm:

(kids, don't try this at home!)

I pour a little over Ice and take it straight.

From what I've read the body processes hfcs the same way it does alcoholized sugars, in the liver.

Glucose is metabolized in every cell in the body but all fructose must be metabolized in the liver. - American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, November 2002 Vol. 76, No. 5, 911-922.

This probably wouldn't be that big of a problem except that hfcs is in almost all processed food. It adds up throughout the day. Someone should do an equivalency chart comparing an alcoholic drink vs {pick almost any processed food item} that might make the problem clearer.

Liver damage without the buzz, swell. Great for the kids!

TEENAGERS are now having to get liver transplants due to fatty liver disease -

"TRENTON, N.J., Sept. 7, 2008

(AP) In a new and disturbing twist on the obesity epidemic, some overweight teenagers have severe liver damage caused by too much body fat, and a handful have needed liver transplants.

Many more may need a new liver by their 30s or 40s, say experts warning that pediatricians need to be more vigilant. The condition, which can lead to cirrhosis and liver failure or liver cancer, is being seen in kids in the United States, Europe, Australia and even some developing countries, according to a surge of recent medical studies and doctors interviewed by The Associated Press.

The American Liver Foundation and other experts estimate 2 percent to 5 percent of American children over age 5, nearly all of them obese or overweight, have the condition, called nonalcoholic fatty liver disease."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/07/health/main4423542.shtml

What lame "commercials." I try to avoid sodas with HFCS. And it sucks that Gatorade has it because when I'm sick, it's sometimes the only thing I can stand to have. And it sucks how many tea drinks have it; I prefer Nantucket Nectars Tea Lemonade and Honest Tea beverages. When I drink soda, it's usually Virgil's, Izze (carbonated fruit juice, basically), or, when I can find it, GUS (Grown-Up Soda).

Unfortunately, when I visit my family, they get the conventional crap, and I'd rather have HFCS soda than aspartame soda, as aspartame is even worse!

that doesn't taste terrible.

Corporate America... gotta love their cajones.

With a handful of funny-shaped stickers, go to your refrigerator and pantry and apply a sticker to everything containing HFCS. When you next go to the grocery, read the label on substitutes for a few of stickered items and buy the substitutes. Repeat until you have no more HFCS in your regular purchases. Remain vigilant in your understanding of the ingredients in everything you put in to your body.

Remember: Garbage In, Garbage Out.

to the stuff masquerading as "good for you" whole grain cereal. It's no wonder we're a nation of fatsos. If I have to choose to eat stuff in moderation, it sure as hell won't be high fructose corn syrup.

They must be feeling the backlash if they spent money on a commercial. Heh, heh - GOOD!

"Smoke Marlboro - so refreshing! Doctors love it too!"



"More Doctors Smoke Camels Than Any Other Cigarette" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI&feature=related

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The "objector" in the ads had nothing to back up his statement that HFCS is unhealthy; but in reality there's tons of scientific studies that say just that. But these studies probably won't be on the HFCS web-site...

Fructose consumption as a risk factor for non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. - BACKGROUND/AIMS: While the rise in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) parallels the increase in obesity and diabetes, a significant increase in dietary fructose consumption in industrialized countries has also occurred. The increased consumption of high fructose corn syrup, primarily in the form of soft drinks, is linked with complications of the insulin resistance
syndrome. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18395287

Dietary Fructose Consumption Among US Children and Adults: The Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey.
CONTEXT: High fructose intake has been associated with increased de novo lipogenesis in the liver as well as increased plasma triglycerides, insulin resistance, and obesity -http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18769702


Study Links Diabetes and High Fructose Corn Syrup Found in Soda

"A new study released Thursday suggests sodas sweetened with high fructose corn syrup may contribute to the development of diabetes. The study from researchers at Rutgers University, shows sodas sweetened with high fructose corn syrup contain high levels of compounds that previous research suggests may play a role in the development of diabetes. Especially when consumed in large amounts...

The Corn Refiners Association and the American Beverage Association sharply dismissed the study, saying in releases Thursday there is absolutely no unique link between soft drinks sweetened with high fructose corn syrup and diabetes."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/health/news-article.aspx?storyid=89755

Try Jones Soda, out of Seattle. They make all their sodas, including their cola, with pure cane sugar.

Especially because they encourage people to belittle others with lies. But the vileness of HFCS is there, too.

I saw one in The Washington Post today--a full-page fucking ad calling it a "schmear campaign" and a picture of a bagel with some reddish cream cheese on it.