NEW Palin pregnancy spin..her kids and her parents didn't know she was

pregnant til HER THIRD TRIMESTER???????????????????????????????


And please don't tell me THIS is going to be the NYT expose on the kid.
The link here is from an AP article in the Dallas Morning News


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/090808dnpolpalinbaby.54709f95.html


Most of the guests, along with the rest of Alaska, had learned that Palin was pregnant only a few weeks before. Struggling to accept that her child would be born with Down syndrome and fearful of public criticism of a governor's pregnancy, Palin had concealed the news that she was expecting even from her parents and children until her third trimester.

But as the governor introduced her son that day, according to a friend, Kristan Cole, she said she had come to regard him as a blessing from God. “Who of us in this room has the perfect child?” Palin asked.

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By last winter, Palin seemed to have everything she had ever wanted. She had raised four children while turning herself into a rising star of the Republican Party of Alaska and then the national one. But then the still-new governor discovered she was pregnant. Piper, the youngest of the Palin brood, was 6. The family had long since given away their crib and high chair.

A few weeks later, after an amniocentesis — a prenatal test to identify genetic defects — Palin learned the results. (“She likes to be prepared,” said Heather Bruce, her older sister). With her husband, Todd, away at his job in the oil fields of the North Slope, Palin told no one for three days, she later said.

she might possibly be a 72 year old's heartbeat away from the Presidency. The voters should demand it.

wouldnt especially tell youngest to prepare adn let child be a part of and be able to adjust to no longer being the youngest but having another come along. what a parent does. parents

Sorry, but no wonder I'm gagging.... :puke:

Some sya Trig was "stolen" from Bristol. Maybe she wanted an abortion, it was out of the question, so MA and Pa adopted. It took a while to get the story straight.

i maybe way out in left field but that texas bullshit really smells...

Did not need to "adopt" Trig. Had she "adopted him", there would have been no reason for the elaborate ruse of pretending to be pregnant..

THIS is the central issue of her "character"...She's always gotten away with HER explanation of things,, her way or the highway..

IF she "kept it from her children", what could that possibly say about the "closeness" of the family?...Mom's SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT, and no one "notices"...

My mother had four of us girls. She knew when for us and we knew when for her.

Apparently, this tendency is quite pronounced and ubiquitous. :shrug:

I have a sister that lives with me, She started going through menopause about two years ago. I even synced up with her and stopped having periods too.

Cuz she sure seemed to move around alot...Wasilla schools, Juneau schools..at one point her Wasilla principal said she was sent to school in Anchorage after being pulled out of Wasilla. Throw in the "home with mono" bullshit.

Here is the Juneau school picture;

http://newshopper.sulekha.com/photos/slideshow/373633.htm

Bristol Palin Wants to Be VP By Lori Price 06 Sep 2008 Bristol Palin: "'I'm also hoping my mother wins (sic) to be Vice President, who knows maybe someday I'll be following in her footsteps??" Yes, after the baby is born and the shotgun wedding has taken place, Bristol aspires to be a vice president, too! "Please don't judge my mother or me, she's the best mother in the world. Listen to her and what she has to say, don't forget to vote (sic) her!" --Even if we did forget to vet her. (Actual quotes from Bristol Palin's MySpace profile page, with commentary)

"2thewhitehousewego" is her user name? What, Bristol didn't have MySpace until a week ago? I find that hard to believe.

Not believable ... nice try ... but nope ...

Their reason for not telling anyone.



AAARRGGGHHH!! They are trying to convince us her own KIDS who lived with her didn't KNOW she was pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one can convince me that that baby is hers. C'mon. Her daughter was cooped up with "said" illness and no records seem to be anywhere. Give me a break. It is her daughters and her family is out of control including her own brain.

or even a record of the baby being born.

Because it is Satan!

with how long she had to pretend to be pregnant.

She has to be talking about her pregnant daughter, right?

...doesn't pass the smell test. Her own children couldn't tell she was pregnant? Give me a break.

Inside Ms. Palin’s room, her daughter Willow, 14, immediately noticed her new brother’s condition, according to People magazine. “He looks like he has Down syndrome,” Willow said. “Why didn’t you tell us?”

A 14 year old sharp enough to spot a Down syndrome child that quickly doesn't notice her mother is seven months pregnant?

A bit hard to credit that.

I would not guess he had Down syndrome. It's much more obvious now. I wonder how a 14 year old would correctly diagnose his condition.

i think i remember reading an article shortly before he was born that Palin was pregnant and the baby would have down syndrome.

According to NYT story, her 14 year old figured it out by looking at him.

That's what stood out to me too in the story. I could see the kid saying, "The baby looks strange." But to give a full and correct diagnosis just doesn't sound plausible.

I suspected when she was 4 months pregnant, and confronted her when she was five months pregnant. Before 4 months, her weight could be explained away.

because of the tests done. but i don't know much about these things and whether there is higher chance of miscarriage with downs syndrome or something else.

miscarriage with a down syndrome baby. What I've read is that 90 % or more people who find out fetus has Down syndrome abort.

http://www.cbdmp.org/bd_down_syn.htm

RISK FACTORS MAY INFLUENCE MISCARRIAGE RATE

Many Down syndrome conceptions result in miscarriage. Do pregnancy factors increase this miscarriage risk, thereby reducing the chance of having a recognized Down syndrome pregnancy? A study of 2000 mothers found:

Women with high alcohol consumption (more than 4 drinks/week) are less likely to have recognized Down syndrome pregnancies.

High coffee consumption (4 or more cups daily) also reduced risk of a recognized Down syndrome pregnancy. These mothers were about 50% more likely to have miscarried a previous preganacy compared to mothers who consumed less coffee.

That could explain a few things.:eyes:

Expected date of birth: Dec 2008/Jan 2009
Claim Bristol is 5 months pregnant: Sept 1, 2008
Birth of Trig: April 18, 2008
Approximate conception date: August 18, 2007 (If born a month prior to due date)


Either Bristol is pregnant or Palin is lying about her daughter being pregnant.

at which week/month of her pregnancy with Trig she had the amniocentesis. What is a normal time? I figure is not right at the start of the pregnancy, so why conceal the pregnancy before the test?

Palin wanted a quickie wedding for Bristol before the story of her VP pick became public. Bristol refused. They apparently had a stormy relationship for some time, and the girl did not have a close relationship with her father. Her mother was always too busy with her career. There's more to this family than meets the eye. At last count they've got two high school dropouts, and the son had no choice but to join the military after being caught vandalizing school buses.

I wouldn't be surprised if Palin punished Bristol by forcing her into the spotlight at the convention.

Balancing career and family in such a way that neither suffers is a skill that Palin apparently never mastered.

Jackie Kennedy once commented, "If you bungle raising your children, nothing else matters very much." I don't think Palin would agree.

My wife and I both put our careers on hold while we were raising our only child.

We are now paying for that decision financially.

But we still think it was the right decision.

I should have used a sarcasm smilie.

I've been flamed on this board for suggesting that Palin has her priorities screwed up. Some people apparently believe that kids raise themselves.

I admire you for putting your child first. If more people did that the world would be a better place.

The middle daughter commented on the fact that the baby resembled a DS baby. That was when she decided to discuss it with her children. After the baby was born.

Seriously, i really feel for those kids. She is a horrific parent IMHO.

from the time of Trig's birth. http://www.adn.com/626/story/382864.html



So did the family know or not?

They never discussed it with the kids until after the kids brought it up.

I cannot fathom knowing i was due with a child for 7 months without discussing it with my kids. Or knowing i was having a down syndrome baby and not preparing them. Or flying my family out of state under the guise of a personal, intimate family celebration only to shock them with international attention.

My kids would certainly not be smiling after all of that.

They didn't even tell them about the VP thing until they were on their way to the event. They told the kids they were going to celebrate their anniversary.

They're both a fine example of parenting. :sarcasm:

She didn't tell them she was pregnant either, until she was in her third trimester, again, according to NYT.

You know, I find it rather odd, if not oxymoronic, that a woman who is so unabashedly anti-choice and against abortion for ANY reason, except if a team of doctors deem a full term pregnancy will literally kill the mother, would even bother having an amniocentesis?

I mean, for someone with her mindset and values, what's the point of finding out if the child-to-be has any birth defects? It wouldn't make any difference to her one way or another, and it obviously didn't in her case. Bear in mind, I'm not for one moment suggesting there's anything wrong w/a decision to keep to full term a baby-to-be who is prenatally diagnosed w/an extra chromosome and most likely to be mentally handicapped.

Just seems odd that she'd go through with the amnio at all. :eyes:

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Because the risk is higher for genetic defects than the risk of the genetic testing procedure itself.

I was 40 and pregnant, and my OB said that she strongly recommended the testing. She told me that even if I didn't care about the results, she wanted to be prepared for any special needs the infant might have.

It's also recommended for women with a history of miscarriages, or genetic defects other family members.

http://kidshealth.org/parent/system/medical/genetics.html

Parents who were in the next delivery room said the scene looked like any other, with no security detail in sight. The three Palin daughters came and went, and as Todd Palin passed through the corridors, he stopped to accept congratulations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/us/politics/08baby.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

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what parents? i want names, not undisclosed sources--or is this the world according to todd?

and cuckoo and very ashamed of this pregnancy.

Did you read the part where she sent out an email and signed it as if it had been written by God?

And what mom in her right mind takes out a premature days old infant out into the public on a continual basis?

since they wouldn't abort a baby with Down's Syndrome or a genetic defect, why the need to know????

Sorry, I aint' buying this bullcrap from this woman....she is a liar and I just pray the truth comes out.

This makes no sense, no sense at all....what a load of crap explanation. And that they didn't tell their children? Right....she had no idea she was pregnant all those months? Every Pro-lifer I know is giddy when they are pregnant and can't wait to tell the world. The people who don't practice birth control and have sex daily, even knowing they are facing risk of Downs Syndrome due to their age (ie. a woman in her late 40's with several children already) knows when she is pregnant and would be telling everyone in the immediate family and wouldn't worry about Down's because its a gift from God.

Right....she didn't know she was pregnant for awhile and sought an amnio knowing it could cause a miscarriage....I call bullshit....

the AFP test indicated an increased risk of our child having Down syndrome. We were sent to a genetic counselor, and decided not to have amniocentesis since she told me that at my age, the risk of a spontaneous abortion after amnio was greater than the risk of us having a child with Down syndrome. I am pro-choice, but we knew as a securely married couple who could provide in every way for a child with a disability, we wouldn't opt for abortion.

The only thing I wanted to know is if the baby had a chance at having spina bifida, since in that case, medical intervention may be necessary before, during or after birth.

Our third daughter was born without Down syndrome. Oh, and our other kids knew I was pregnant, and they were 6 and 3.

And after maternal age of 34, the risk of genetic defects is greater than that of an Amnio or CVS.

She had an FP. At a hospital in a town where she didn't live and was hours from where she did live. With no NICU. Seriously.

Don't get me wrong - I think she acted irresponsibly getting got on plane after leaking fluid, and not going to the nearest facility with a NICU.

I was just responding to the statement that a 44 year old woman getting an amnio was irresponsible because of the risks involved in amnio.

If a woman her age refused an amnio, against the standard of care for pregnant women her age, I would have considered that to be irresponsible. I would imagine that there are many 34+ PL women getting amnios because of it's the standard of care, and that's not hypocritical or confusing.

I'm all for calling her on her bullshit, but her getting an amnio is not among that bullshit.

They are recommended, but since they come with their own risks, many women refuse them and many doctors only do them in cases where they're really needed (usually in the case of a woman with a known genetic issue or previous children with a genetic issue). A woman who refuses an amnio based on the risks that come with the procedure isn't irresponsible.

A woman who chooses a doctor who's hours away by plane, who's an FP at a hospital without a NICU (when this is a known high risk pregnancy), and who lets herself be manipulated by the patient while she's in labor to the point of malpractice--that's an irresponsible woman.

I just don't agree with the OP that she is suspect both as a PL and responsible on the basis that she had amnio, especially since she's over 34. And yes, any woman is free to decide not to have one.

And like I said, there is so much BS surrounding her decisions on this birth, and this is really not something that points to bad judgement at all.

I expect that part of the story to emerge at any minute.

The most judgmental people on the face of the earth, and they never want to be judged.

irresponsible teenage drop-outs, shoving them onto a national convention stage, and trying to pass them off as America's newest sweethearts.

I guess that practice does not always make perfect

Until I see a picture of Sarah at the hospital w/the baby after the baby was born (There's always a picture of this), the story is utter BS. Photoshoped pictures aren't allowed.

I know we are suppose to stay on the issues
but let me just say
IF she is as PRO LIFE AS SHE CLAIMS
Why wasn't this baby celebrated from day one??????

Seems to me a woman who would make her daughters have a baby in cases of RAPE
Would be over joyed with a baby no matter what

The only photos I've seen of Sarah looking pregnant, she looks REALLY pregnant in her 8th month. Using those as a guide, she should have started showing big time by month 6. Her two oldest children should have known what was happening long before she told them in her 7th month. :eyes: