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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:03 AM
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Any others around Clayton NC experience this today?
CLAYTON, N.C. — Emergency officials said residents in Johnston and surrounding counties reported hearing loud booms that shook their houses Sunday evening.
Most of the reports came in from Clayton and Wendell, starting around 5:45 p.m. WRAL viewers in Selma and Middlesex also reported similar experiences.

"I was inside on the computer, and all of a sudden, I just heard this big, old boom," Clint Banks, of Clayton, said. "This one lady said that her house shook when it happened. But I heard a lot of it, and it lasted, I'd say, about 15 seconds."

Emergency crews searched the area for the source of the noise but could not identify what the noise was, said Capt. Buck Pipkin, with the Johnston County Sheriff's Office.

Some residents have speculated that the noise might have been the result of a sonic boom, a term that is commonly used to refer to the shocks caused by the supersonic flight of a military aircraft.

Pipkin said the sheriff's office has called surrounding air bases and airports, and none reported a missing plane.

Officials at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in Wayne County said planes are not allowed to produce a sonic boom. All of the base's F-15s completed landing at 4:15 p.m., officials said.

The National Weather Service officials said they did not know of any events – including an earthquake – that would have caused the noise.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3500792/

I felt and heard it. I got the sensation that my windows and walls EXPANDED - like during that initial jolt of an earthquake. One guy wrote into WRAL (and somebody else kind of validated it) with this possible explanation which I thought was really interesting:


"As was previously reported, there is currently no answer. I would like to suggest an alternative. It's quite possible that it was a meteor that burned up, or blew up, in the skies above NC. I have heard a similar noise during a meteor shower. One in particular made a sizzling or hissing noise. Several people that heard it also mentioned hearing something like this. Not sure if there is anyway to check o this, but it may be something to look into, as they will produce a sonic boom if big/low enough, and if exploded in the air, then it could have had many of the same effects as a bomb going off without making a crater or any other signs on the ground. Just a suggestion." - Chris

"My neighbor and I were standing in the back yard and heard what sounded like a sizzle, then a loud pop and then a boom." - Tracy


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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:05 AM
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1. Wow That's gotta be kinda freaky
:hide:

I'll be curious to find out what it was.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:08 AM
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2. I'd say press the Air Force base a little harder.
"They're not allowed" is NOT a synonym for "they didn't do it." Particularly when pilots are involved.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:13 AM
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3. Can you imagine "Mavrick" john McPOW obeying a pussy order like no sonic booms?
I hear he wouldn't obey an order not to "wet start" the engines on his A4 Skyhawk while serving on the Forrestal.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:14 AM
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6. My initial sense was that it wasn't a sonic boom.
I've heard/felt those before, and this just seemed different. And the base said all its fighters had already returned to the base by that time.

But we'll see. Maybe. :)
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:13 AM
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4. Sonic boom sounds possible.
I remember one when i was a kid. Knocked a huge mirror off the wall. The walls did what you describe. They seemed to bend.

Maybe they are not admitting it because they are not supposed to let them happen.

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:13 AM
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5. That doesn't sound like a sonic boom
I live about 45 miles from Cape Canaveral, so I'm used to hearing sonic booms when the shuttle returns. It's always two very distinct booms. They shake the house and you can feel the pressure from them, but the house doesn't feel like it expands. There's no sizzle or pop before hand either.

Weird. Very weird.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:27 AM
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7. Very strange!
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:29 AM
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8. I felt this here in Texas about a week ago.
Sitting in a bank drive-through. It wasn't a "boom" so much as a loud popping electric sizzle sort of noise. It seemed to course through every molecule--unlike any sound I've ever heard before. I felt it just as much as I heard it--it was like the sound was even inside my own body when it happened.

It also very very briefly interrupted my car radio. I looked around, and all the other customers were looking around too, to see what had happened. Something very strange is going on.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:46 AM
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10. Meteor sizzle sounds are still a mystery
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:00 AM
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15. Hmmm. That's really interesting -- thanks! I'd love to know if that's what it was! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:48 AM
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11. It was definitely a boom here, and a jolt.
But did you read what those two people said about the sizzle and popping? And since you mention that, I'm now wondering if it's some kind of new weapon they're testing (although would they do that over cities -- isn't that what Area 51 is for?).

Was there any news coverage about it in your area?


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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:44 AM
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9. Any Navy carriers within 200 miles?
That would be my guess. I'd also suggest tracking down the rejection of the idea of an earthquake as that isn't NOAA's normal area of responsibility (although they'd have access to USGS data).

Then again, maybe this is an effect of the big experiment with the supercollider they are going to conduct on Wednesday. Who says time isn't going to be affected? :popcorn:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:53 AM
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13. I don't know of any carriers off our coast, but that doesn't mean they're not
there. I don't think it was an earthquake because there were no reports of shaking. And I know this sounds odd, but I've been through a lot of quakes -- different kinds/feelings of quakes -- and this just felt different.

Yeah. Cern. I'm with you on that. :scared:
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:03 AM
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19. Some "quakes" just go Boom.
I experienced one in Delaware around 1972.

Mystery of 'The Earthquake Boom’-
a real earthquake

TERRA RESEARCH LLC,
14-August-2003
Larry Park

One June 11, 2003 the first volcanism article, Volcanoes In California, Idaho, and Pacific Northwest Building Towards Catastrophic Eruptions, reveals a startling discovery to science –the ‘earthquake boom’ (see list item 11 of History of ‘Breakthrough’ Technology). Currently a mystery to seismologists, a powerful explosion sound which eludes detection by the best of seismographs, is a real earth event and should be correctly classified as an ‘earthquake’. The rare earthquake boom is part of a ‘family’ of five types of events the earth can generate of which only two are known by science. It is important for residents near volcanoes to be aware of the ‘earthquake boom’, although an unnerving experience doesn’t indicate an actual explosion occurred or that an eruption is imminent. This article gives insight into why these events occur and what they mean. Included are some hair raising stories from Mt. St. Helens climbers – who experienced a fantastic ‘boom’.

A few terms defined for article discussion:

*

Scalar wave – A ‘mass-less’ wave that propagates differently than traditional electromagnetic waves (radio waves). Scalar waves do not oscillate back and forth between magnetic and electrostatic, yet are real waves of energy. Therefore, to sense them, one requires different technology. Traditional radio wave technology will not properly sense pure Scalar waves.
*

Scalar – A difference in energy potential between two reference points, with a vector. Think of an arrow; the tip to tail length defines the strength; the pointing direction of arrow determines the 3-D direction it is pointing (from-to).
*

Gyro-scalar – A ‘precessing’ emanation of scalar wave similar to a rate of wobble to spinning top.

What is an ‘Earthquake Boom’?

Earthquake Boom is a very loud, deep sounding explosion, which emanates from the earth. If directly above emanation, directional determination may be difficult as sound is not from a distinct direction as it is from a wide area of earth’s surface. It is a higher frequency audio form of the traditional shaking earthquake even though current seismographs cannot ‘see’ or ‘record’ them. Scalar devices are able to clearly ‘see’ these events along with the rest of the earthquake ‘family’ of earth-generated events such as the ‘silent’ or ‘slow’ earthquake. Another relative to the ‘family’ is the earth ‘lurch’ and a ‘fast version of slow’ earthquake – these yet to be discovered by mainstream science.

These loud explosions have been witnessed by many over the years. They also accompany traditional earthquakes as these are part of the mix of seismic activity (earthquake & earthquake boom).City residents of Spokane Washington in the summer of 2001 experienced a classic series of explosions (earthquake booms) and earthquakes in a flurry of shallow earthquake swarms. Seismologists were unable to record these booming events on seismographs.


Much more at: http://www.terraresearch.net/articles/earthquakeboom_article1_file.html
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:52 AM
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12. In 1997 we had an earthquake near Charlottesville, VA
felt kind of the same, I thought an overweight truck went past the house (old historic wood frame on main road, not unusual to have it groan when a huge loaded truck rolled past outside) turns out it was centered only about 30 miles away. Tried to find a link on USGS. :shrug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:59 AM
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14. I checked the USGS -
the closest quake at during that time period was in Nevada.

This felt different from other quakes I've experienced.

it was just different from anything I've ever experienced. It wasn't scary, but it's just perplexing.


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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:19 AM
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16. Maybe it was aliens dropping off new pods of Republicans
just in time for the election in November? :shrug:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:56 AM
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25. LOL, I was thinking that maybe it was
McCains head exploding when his advisors told him he was going to lose this election. :-)

Seriously though, very interesting indeed.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:27 AM
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26. Those damn aliens! nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:51 AM
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22. There was also one there a few years ago -- felt similar
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:34 PM
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28. I love it when the earth moves
:rofl:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:34 AM
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17. In 2006, a sonic boom hit San Diego, scientists determined it came from an off-shore military zone
This article mentioned similar events in Maine, Alabama, the Carolinas, and Florida.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20060423-9999-1n23bigboom.html

Scripps scientists triangulated the origin of the San Diego boom to an off-shore military zone.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060427-9999-1n27boom.html

Here's the map with that article: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060427/images/boom.html

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:32 AM
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27. Totally possible. If so, I wonder why it was experienced here, so far inland,
and not closer to the coast.

I'm very interested to see what the explanation is.


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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:52 AM
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18. Is that anywhere near Blackwater's playground, Moyock, NC?
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 02:52 AM by ColbertWatcher
North Carolina's 3rd district, the Fightin' Third?

According to Wikip*dia, a Democratic candidate, Marshall Adame, who was running for NC's 3rd, said during a live question-and-answer "session"
"There is no place in the American force structure, or in American culture for mercenaries, they are guns for hire; No more, no less."
when asked about Blackwater.

Blackwater executive vice president Bill Mathews responded with an internal corporate email to staff, saying, in part:
There is a man named Marshall Adame who is running for congress in our district. He just put a quote online which says he wants this company and all of us to cease to exist. Do you like your jobs? Are you sick and tired of the slanderous bullshit going on in DC? If so, would you all mind joining me in reminding Mr. Adame that he is running for office in our backyard. Tell all your friends and family too. We welcome their assistance in making this point very clear to Mr. Adame.
Anyone who wants to send a letter may do so at the following address…....
His email is ....
He was too cowardly to put a phone number on the web. I ask that you keep your comments to Mr. Adame professional (well, mostly professional). We help him if our comments get threatening or too crass. Let’s run this goof out of Dodge….!

--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide#Controversy_and_criticism">Wikip*dia


It seems Blackwater believes a part of North Carolina is "their backyard".

How can you not trust this face?



The map at this link shows driving directions between "Clayton, North Carolina" and "Moyock, North Carolina"

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Moyock,+N+Carolina&geocode=&dirflg=&daddr=Clayton,+North+Carolina&f=d&hl=en&sll=36.5626,-76.176453&sspn=0.544899,0.845947&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=8

If it is Blackwater, can you hear explosions 185 miles away?

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:11 AM
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20. Yes, I did notice it!
I thought someone banged on my front door. I ran to the door and no one was there. I was a little freaked all evening . I thought some one was messing with me.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:19 AM
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24. They were messing with you - but at a higher altitude.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:49 AM
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21. A MiG-29 flew over late Saturday afternoon at 2000-feet and about 400 knots. Shagging?
There are several privately owned MiG-29s in the Southeast, including one said to be owned by Greenville, SC, convenience-store/gas-station magnate Stuart Spinks (owns the Spinx chain).

The high-speed pass on Saturday coincided with the beginning of the Shagging on Augusta festival on Augusta Road in Greenville (Shag the dance .. not the British shag). I have to hope that the 400-knot (465-mph) over-flight had the blessing of the FAA. Otherwise, that MiG-29 was about 150-knots over the speed limit of 250-knots (below 10,000-feet).


MiG-29

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:58 AM
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23. I was at my lake house outside Zebulon and heard something
as I was talking on my cell phone. I saw the windows on the front of the house look like they took a breath of air. It was freaky and I spent time going around the house and looking on the roof as well to see if I noticed anything.
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:36 PM
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29. Sounds like a non-answer to me
They ask the local airforce base about sonic booms and they reply with "no planes are missing"?

Since when do only missing planes produce sonic booms?
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atolley13 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:10 PM
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30. I Heard!!
I Also Live In Clayton And Heard That Very Noise!! They Say That It Wasnt A Plane But there Was A F15 Above My House (off 42 hwy) Moments Before This Happened So For Them To Say No Planes. Thats Crazy!! I Freaked Out!! I Havent Been that Scared In Forever..
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