I dont like the sounds of the physics experiment!

thewiseguy

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:16 AM
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I dont like the sounds of the physics experiment!

Since learning about the collider experiment and its possible ramifications I have been scared shitless. Honestly I do not think the scientists even know what will happen. Is this really worth it?

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JonQ

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:17 AM
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1. Heh

worried about ending all life on earth when they turn it on? Might happen, only one way to find out.

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thewiseguy

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:19 AM
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3. Do we really have to find out?

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cobalt1999

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:32 AM
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17. You could say the same thing about any scientific experiment.

Do we really have to find out? Depends on what you want.

No, but there will be no additional learnings or breakthroughs.

Want fusion power one day? Want to solve food and ecological challenges? Want to see us explore the solar system? In that case, YES they really need to find out.

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JonQ

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:21 PM
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34. Nope

but it sounds like this will clear the way for a whole onslaught of new discoveries. I'm not a physicist, so I'm just going with what the experts have claimed.

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Winterblues

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:18 AM
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2. They have been using colliders for decades now.

This one is just a little bigger and better..

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thewiseguy

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:21 AM
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13. The bigger and better might just doom us!

I wish they would not do this.

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HeresyLives

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:19 AM
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4. Surely you jest.

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cobalt1999

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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5. Relax.

Yes, what we learn will be worth it. No, there isn't any reason to be concerned.

The odds of something bad happening are staggeringly less than an space rock slamming into the earth next week.

Besides, if the unthinkable happened, we'd be gone so fast you wouldn't feel a thing.

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Lex

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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6. ***The music video about it is good though***

Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:21 AM by Lex

here ---> http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9217

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NeedleCast

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:26 AM
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14. That's Awesome!

Very cool...in a cheezy way.

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Lex

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:27 AM
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15. Yes, the Cheez and Nerdlinger factor is way high. Cute.

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NeedleCast

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:33 AM
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19. Be a great teaching aid for high school level physics I think

Lawd knows we need to get kids more interested in the sciences.

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Windy

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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7. I was at CERN in May... took a tour and had a lecture by physicists. It is perfectly safe.

the entire collider system may be huge, but the tube the the particles are actually moved through is only several inches in diameter. Every inch is monitored. Go to the CERN website. A lot of the breakthroughs they have made as a result of the research to date are fantastic. Many have medical applications. Treating cancer with direted proton beams for example..

And an FYI..they have been colliding particles at the FERMI lab in Chicago for years.

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kurth_

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:41 AM
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24. Excellent point. Most cancer treatment tools in nuclear medicine came from accelerator physics

Not to mention the WWW was invented at CERN.

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knitter4democracy

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Mon Sep-08-08 01:03 PM
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42. Dr. Blosser was the first to use a cyclotron to treat cancer.

He started the cyclotron lab at Michigan State. When his wife started fighting her cancer, he started looking into applying what he'd learned in building the MSU cyclotron to medicine, and he and his sons grabbed some of the MSU guys (my dad was one of them) to start their new medical cyclotron company. Only a couple of hospitals bought any, if I remember right.

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billyoc

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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8. I know! The earth-devouring black hole will definitely help McCain!

:rofl:

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jayfish

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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9. Don't Worry. If Anything Were...

to happen you wouldn't even know it.

Jay

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SmokingJacket

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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10. It's going to be super cool.

They're going to figure some things out that have been bothering scientists for a long time.

They'll find out soon, too. Apparently the Higgs Boson will either be there, or it won't.

(Don't ask me any details, though. I was an English major! :) )

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Schema Thing

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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Have you been hearing that massive twisting and groaning sound

Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:21 AM by AchtungToddler

coming from teh west? Kind of non-specific, born on the wind, but definitely a rage from the bowels of hell?

Yeh, that sound has been driving me crazy the past few days too!

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Silent3

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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11. Might be better than risking a McCain/Palin win.

:evilgrin:

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NeedleCast

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:20 AM
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12. There Are Plenty of Things to Be Scared Of

This is not one of them.

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HiFructosePronSyrup

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:28 AM
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16. Epic fail

No pic necessary

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TahitiNut

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:32 AM
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18. (Sheesh!) We built a cyclotron ("collider") as a science project in high school in 1959.

BFD!
:eyes:

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NeedleCast

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:35 AM
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21. I always figured you were trying to destroy the planent

by creating a point singularity and having the whole earth sucked in.

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TahitiNut

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:41 AM
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23. Yup. We figured it was a race between us and ...

... Elvis. :evilgrin:

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snooper2

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:33 AM
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20. :)

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

as many others did when reading the OP... ( Was waiting for this thread today )

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

Black hole will suck in the whole of the Earth :rofl:

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liberalmuse

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:36 AM
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22. it is, if...

we end up in the time/space continuum where Barack Obama becomes our next President. I'm more afraid of McCain becoming president than getting zapped out of oblivion, if truth be told.

I'm not all that good with understanding physics, only the basics, but my imagination likes to run wild with stuff like this. Like for instance, how and why in the hell did the Philadelphia Experiment myth get started? I used to work for a place that studied UFO sightings and cattle mutilations and heard about really weird things directly from a couple of the scientists who are still working in our National Labs. I don't discount too many things these days.

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caraher

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:45 AM
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25. Nature does this kind of thing every day

and we're still here. (Extremely high energy cosmic rays interact with our atmosphere, at greater energies than LHC can achieve; this is one experimental fact that argues strongly for the safety of the experiment.)

Bear in mind that while the energies per particle are stupendous, these collisions overall are far less energetic than the typical freeway fender-bender.

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Growler

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:51 AM
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30. exactly!

great post!!

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Ikonoklast

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Mon Sep-08-08 01:27 PM
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43. Ah-ha!! But did it ever happen underground?

Or in Switzertland? Huh? What about that? Huh?

I thought so.

We're doomed I tell ya, DOOMED!

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:46 AM
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26. Scared Shitless Over What? A Perfectly Safe Experiment?

Worry yourself not. The experiments are totally harmless. Stay away from the propaganda.

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David Zephyr

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:46 AM
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27. Nothing to worry about.

It's great science.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:48 AM
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28. Oh, And As An Aside:

How wise can you really be if you actually fell for the doomsday crap?

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PermanentRevolution

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:49 AM
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29. Ooo! Is this today?

When? I wanna make sure I see the black hole swallow up everything!

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DS1

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:52 AM
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31. Since it will be a black hole instead of the skies opening, it'll be a reverse Rapture

and only godless liberals will be sucked in to the eternal party.

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Warpy

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Mon Sep-08-08 11:55 AM
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32. Sometimes they go with the percentages

and the chance of anything globally catastrophic is miniscule.

Remember, there was an equivalent chance the first atom bomb would ignite the whole atmosphere.

And no, the political atmosphere doesn't count.

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TreasonousBastard

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:19 PM
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33. You have watched too many episodes of Eureka and...

probably heard that the geniuses who came up with the first atom bomb actually mused over the possibility of the atmoshpere exploding.

But. don't worry about a thing for now. Just keep thinking about what they have planned for August 11, 2012.

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Dukkha

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:29 PM
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35. Not the same risk as the Manhattan Project

Where some scientists specualted the nuclear chain reaction may not be containable and the explosion would be infinite around the globe.

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obiwan

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:40 PM
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36. If we are all around Thursday, we can talk about it then.

Guess I am a fatalist.

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deaniac21

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:52 PM
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37. What if it plays the brown note?

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slackmaster

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:54 PM
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38. Only Kenny G has the talent to do that

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Swede

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:55 PM
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39. HP Lovecraft was right.

The Old Ones are waiting.

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knitter4democracy

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:56 PM
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40. My dad helped build and maintain MSU's cyclotron. It's safe.

Well, as long as you don't put your hand in the beam (that guy died of cancer that started in his hand) or align the beam by sight (my dad's fought off skin cancer by his eye twice now). There's some radiation.

The Michigan State cyclotron has been doing similar experiments on a smaller scale for decades now, and we're all still here. Why not visit a similar lab and talk to some of the physicists for yourself?

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tannybogus

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Mon Sep-08-08 12:59 PM
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41. You have got to be kidding???????????

The LHC is really a creation of fundie scientists(oxymoron). This how they intend to jumpstart the Rapture. Jeeebus is really a particle physicist and a carpenter and preacher and Savior and.... Everyone going to Heaven will be sucked into a celestial black hole and whisked to the Pearly Gates. The rest of us will just be whisked.:sarcasm:

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Ikonoklast

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Mon Sep-08-08 01:34 PM
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44. I just had a horrible thought...

What if they do find the Higgs Boson, but it makes every beer in the world, except Bud Light, disappear instantaneously?

I don't want to think about it. Life as we know it would cease to be worth living.
:puke:

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