Gallup has Mccain 49 to Obama 44% - i'm very depressed

how can people be so stupid to vote for a wretched team like Mccain and Pallin?

:headbang:
rocknation

You'll find more undecideds there than you will here.

NGU.

Some of the biggest corporations in the world own the same news outlets the American people view regularly. These corporations would lose billions in future profits if a Democrat shifted the burden of taxation off of the working class back onto the wealthy.

McCain had a convention bounce, it's to be expected and it's never permanent.

when was it taken?

Mon dieu!

Relax.

November is gonna be so sweet!

Either that or we fucking revolt! (I'm series !!111!1) :smoke:

Don't focus on Gallup. They are the most volatile of the polls. They do wild swings and their likely voter model knocks a lot of Dem voters out.

The CNN poll came out today.

We are at the strongest post convention bump time for McCain. Wait for equilibrium to set back in.

Because THEY said so?

I can pull numbers out of my ass too.

It doesn't mean it's the truth.


They're just setting up plausible numbers to engineer another election theft.

so take a look here:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

:thumbsup:

lately, actually. I'm sure Obama's campaign is concentrating on the Electoral College strategy and watching the state polling.

Is that it is based on state polls which were taken before the conventions. Almost no recent state polls in that map.

And use more and newer polling data. It could be more accurate.

One must not forget that the sample size is vastly larger for the Electoral college collective poll.

Plus it is harder to bend to the will of the corporate overlords!

They must have sprung her from whatever mental institution she was in.

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Remember, only land lines are polled. This is primarily the domain of older, more conservative voters. Cell phones are not polled, and as we are all aware, there are many cell phones out there, most of them owned by younger, more progressive voters who are more likely to vote for Obama/Biden, and who do not have traditional land lines. Provided they are not brainwashed by the MSM. It's not as close as you think.

orders, channel your enrage to working for Obama anything you will be much appreciated.

A lot is going to depend on the actual campaigns. People who say they are entranced by Sarah Palin may not be so entranced after they see her performance on the campaign trail, the debate, etc. and hear more about her record in Alaska. And the fundanentals still vastly favor Obama. The right wing fundies cannot elect McCain President all by their little selves, no matter how "energized" they get.

GOTV!

Everybody just relax.

This poll means nothing -- NOTHING!

Obama will win.

Obama WILL win!

Obama WILL WIN!!

OBAMA WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought NY was solidly dem, but they are showing it weak dem. :wtf:

right after the Dem convention about the Obama campaign. In it, the campaign manager or some other higher up said that Gallup is worthless. I have kept this in mind as I watched the polls go up and down. The polls that the Obama camp is watching are their internal polls that we aren't privy too. So, channel that despair into something positive like canvassing or phone banking and don't pay attention. I know, it's hard.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6820061

It discusses it. Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

But I wouldn't worry too much. There is a lot of time before the election. And the debates are coming up. I think that is when things will really swing in our favor. They will be more issues-driven (I hope?), and we win when that happens.

2000 and 2004 :-(

Obama is the most popular candidate since JFK and has the electoral vote in the bag! A psycho Alaskan fundie won't change that.

IF the GOP manage election fraud again for McSame, we will still have a landslide congress win, making him the lamest lame duck president ever.

There's still time to get the word out and get people on board.

Repubs cut into our bounce as planned with controversial VP pick.

McZombie and Mooselini's bounce will fade.

Quit paying attention to NATIONAL polls they mean NOTHING. We don't elect a President nationally but state by state. So the ONLY polls that matter are the state polls. In those polls Obama looks quite good.

to dishearten us? Don't let it bring you down.

i CANNOT believe there are this many stupid people in our country who do not desperately want to get rid of GOP administration.

n/t

Does anyone know how many posts it takes before a person can START a thread? I'm new here and every time I try it says I have to respond to some more posts before I can start a thread. I can't find anything in the FAQs.

It's a couple dozen or so.

I never thought it was a great idea to underestimate her. She's a skilled speaker and is popular in AK. She's also freaking insane and unfortunately many people don't know that. They just hear she's popular in AK and that she's a tough woman that has several kids and got "unfairly attacked by the media". It's frustrating, but getting depressed over a set of numbers that constantly change is pointless.

Also, it's worth noting that the party that has the latter convention usually has an advantage. That's been the case in the past and is today as well.

If you're depressed, go work for the campaign. Have some conversations with real people. Maybe you'll agree with many. It's possible you won't as well. If you don't live in a state where you feel your work won't matter as much (I think there are many states out there this year that are potential picks so I wouldn't let polls determine your involvement), work for a senate or congressional candidate.

But don't get depressed over poll numbers. Get depressed by electoral results if you want, but we're certainly not there...

get ready for another stolen one. We have to be at least 5-6 points ahead to beat the Rethug rigging.

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Remember, the election isn't decided by popular vote. If it was, Al Gore would be our President. It is decided by electoral vote.

You know, I'm starting to think that caller ID has as much to do with the poll numbers as the cell phones that aren't polled. I don't answer calls that have "out of area" designations on my caller ID. How many people just aren't answering the phone because they have caller ID and they don't recognize the phone number, or the phone number doesn't come up?

it's all orchestrated, choreographed, market-tested, manipulated, tracked, influenced by special interests and corporations, and the decision is already written into the narrative.

it's all "bread and circuses" for the magazine reading american demimonde of shallow-pates, nincompoops, and boobs.

and that sinking feeling of "oh my god! i CANNOT believe they did that and got away with it!" is all too familiar now.

is OVER, OVER, OVER. Keep looking at the electoral map--there is where grampy is getting a boot up his Ass. Palin can't lie fast enough to turn those numbers around.

And the electoral maps still have Obama waaay ahead.

Obama rallies:



McCain rallies:

polls are like socks, people have lots of them and change them frequently.