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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:38 PM
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Obama Camp Deploys The "L" Word
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 01:17 PM by bigtree

from Business Week: http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/2008/09/obama_camp_uses.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_brandnewday

Up to now, the McCain and Obama campaigns have been just feisty complained about one another’s ads, using words like “distortion,” “Misleading,” etc.

But when it comes to the McCain/Palin campaigns continued boosting of the story that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin “said No” to the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere” (This was a bridge from mainland Alaska to an island that would have cost Federal taxpayers hundreds of millions, the Obama campaign has called it an outright “LIE.”

From Obama spokesperson Bill Burton: Despite being discredited over and over again by numerous news organizations, the McCain campaign continues to repeat the lie that Sarah Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere. John McCain has voted with George Bush 90% of the time and he and Sarah Palin will continue Bush’s economic policies, his health care policy, his education policy, his energy policy, and his foreign policy. McCain and Palin will say or do anything to make people believe that they will change something besides the person sitting in the Oval Office. That’s the kind of politics people are tired of, and it’s anything but change.”

There is plenty of consistent reporting and evidence that Palin endorsed the bridge project while running for governor in 2006, and then claimed to be an opponent only after Congress killed its funding the next year. Palin has used the $223 million provided for the bridge for other state ventures.

Burton said (in his e-mail to reporters) : “The question remains whether the same news orgs that debunked the original Bridge to Nowhere falsehood will aggressively stay on McCain and hold him accountable every time he and his campaign repeat it.”



from HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/palins-lie-caught-on-came_b_124831.html

Gov. Sarah Palin has lied and dissembled about her past support for the Bridge to Nowhere earmark, as many journalists have reported. Now the Obama campaign is circulating a photograph of Palin literally bragging about her support for the bridge, with a note titled "I supported the Bridge to Nowhere and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt."

Here's the picture worth a thousand fact-checks:



It's from Palin's 2006 campaign, explains an Obama aide, where "she's proudly posing with a t-shirt that reads 'NOWHERE ALASKA 99901.'" Now from a distance, the entire fight over the bridge earmarm could look silly, compared to bigger problems facing the country. Obama is arguing, however, that the McCain campaign's blatant lies, about issues small and large, reveal his approach to governance. It is indeed striking that McCain picked this fight, touting his running mate's "reform" record not through spin, or selective biography, but by flatly lying about her very recent actions.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:39 PM
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1. Call it what it is. More Lies to come, no doubt.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:43 PM
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2. I've been ranting about this all week,
they need to go after McCain for the ad he's running that says electing Obama and the Democrats will run up deficits, not balance the budget and raise taxes on working people. They should be asking McCain if he's been in a coma the last 8 years.

They should also be doing this with ads - Obama, Biden or a rep can give a great speech, but they'll reach more people with a 30 second ad.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:45 PM
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3. Yeah! Finally. Call the lies what they are!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:45 PM
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4. It's about time they started calling it like it is!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:45 PM
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5. FINALLY!
Enough with the nice-nice that got us nowhere. Well, it didn't get us "nowhere", it got us whupped. Thank you, Senator Obama for handing their steaming beeyess right back to them with a hearty topping of "no thanks" and "in your face!"
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:46 PM
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6. I jumped for joy when Rachel used it the other week while sitting in for Keith
It's time Obama go for broke when the facts substantiate the assertion.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:47 PM
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7. woops - du hiccupping again today
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 12:48 PM by eleny
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:47 PM
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8. K&R. Way to go Obama! This is what is required. Keep it at the top. nt
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:49 PM
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9. Where did the $223 Million go?
Was it legal for her to spend that federal money?
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:47 PM
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16. Yes, the state government's actions were legal
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 01:50 PM by Jim Lane
The bill in Congress provided a total amount of money for projects in Alaska. The earmark was the specification that $442 million of it had to be spent on the two bridges. Congress removed that earmark in 2005, before Palin was even elected Governor. The New York Times reported:

The change will not save the federal government any money. Instead, the $442 million will be turned over to the state with no strings attached, allowing lawmakers and the governor there to parcel it out for transportation projects as they see fit, including the bridges should they so choose.


(from , Nov. 17, 2005)

Palin's support for funding the bridges, voiced in her 2006 campaign for Governor, presumably meant that she wanted Congress to add funding for the bridges on top of the rest of the Alaska appropriation. As the Times points out, if all she wanted to do was to choose to spend the existing money on the bridges, she'd be able to do that without Congressional action. Her reference in 2006 to the power of the state's Congressional delegation must mean she wanted additional federal funding. It was only when it became clear that no such funding would come through that she canceled the projects.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:50 PM
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10. Lies, and the lying liars that tell them.
Give them HELL!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:52 PM
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11. It's about time. Anytime they make a false statement, call it
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 12:54 PM by kestrel91316
what it is: a LIE. They don't get a pass by falsely claiming it might have been an honest mistake, either. There is no such thing as an "honest mistake" when it comes to Republicams.

Then, if they want to correct the statement, they are forced to admit their stupidity and lack of knowledge and it makes them look even worse.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:34 PM
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20. I did that today with a neocon, and she told me that Palin turned the money
back in to the feds. :banghead: Said that she only used 2 million to set up a ferry system and sent the rest back to the feds. Do we have anything that shows what she actually used the pork for?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:56 PM
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12. Thank you.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 12:57 PM
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13. They should be doing this.
If they say something that is incorrect once, ok, you can pass that off as a mistake.

If they keep repeating it, even after being corrected, they are LYING.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:10 PM
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14. PALIN'S LIE Caught on Camera, Says Obama Campaign (great Palin pic with RTN -shirt)
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 01:18 PM by bigtree
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 01:14 PM
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15. And there it is. n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 02:39 PM
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17. kick for the anxious
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:13 PM
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18. That's true. The RNC may have been relying on Dems avoiding calling them LIES.
Because they've been laying the lies on very thickly since our convention.
Lies rolled out for all to see-- unconcerned. They can issue corrections later. The lies reach different people who may not tune in for the corrections. Get those lies out there -- Obama will raise your taxes. Obama hasn't authored any significant legislation.

I've seen our party try to be civil and have that civility spat upon before.

So this time I say, Yes Please !! Call lies what they are and call McZombie and Mooselini the liars that they are.

The Right has gotten so brazen with the appointment of a hard right fundamentalist as VP candidate.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:21 PM
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19. And CNN is covering this right now...
with Meg Stapleton, Palin's former aide, trying to smooth the lie over. Wolfie is bringing up her opportunism and sparring with the aide.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 03:56 PM
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21. K & R.
Good. Expose the lies!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:52 PM
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22. .
:kick:
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:20 PM
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23. and another...
:kick:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:58 PM
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24. back up there
:kick:
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