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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:27 PM
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Drop in tobacco use results in less tax income (21.5 percent dip)
Drop in tobacco use results in less tax income

ALASKA CUTS BACK: With a 21.5 percent dip, budgets feel pinch.

FAIRBANKS -- Fewer people in Alaska are smoking, and the decline in tobacco sales is cutting into the amount of tobacco tax money available for some government budgets.

The state Department of Health and Social Services reported in June that the number of adult smokers in Alaska has declined by one-fifth since 1996 to 21.5 percent, or about 27,000 fewer smokers statewide.

As those numbers drop, smaller municipalities are forced to look elsewhere for dependable income.

Alaska has the highest per capita consumption of tobacco in the country and the seventh-highest tax rate on cigarettes at $2 per pack.

http://www.adn.com/news/government/story/519362.html

Why complain, they should have much more money from health care savings??
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:30 PM
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1. Rate of smoking drops but health care costs rise.
Who cares as long as we can feel superior to those filthy (tax-paying) smokers? :smoke:

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:32 PM
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4. Indeed:
Since 1991, heath care spending in Alaska has escalated from $1.6 billion to $5.3 billion-a 230 percent increase. Per-person spending for Alaskans increased 176 percent, going from $2,884 to $7,970. If these trends continue, health care spending in Alaska could double again by 2013.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6482079/Medical-blues-many-factors-impact.html
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:31 PM
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2. They should legalize and tax
Marijuana to make up for the shortfall
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:31 PM
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3. The problem is, the health care savings won't be realized for decades
This is a fundamental problem with taxing things to discorage them. Government becomes dependent on the tax revenue, which creates a disincentive to pursue the original fundamentally sound public policy.
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FatherTime1408 Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:36 PM
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5. Exactly. They'll be raising the tax again to cover it...
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 04:36 PM by FatherTime1408
...or maybe start advertising for big tobacco? LOL
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:38 PM
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6. They should repeal this fascist, discriminatory tax.
:smoke:
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:40 PM
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7. They are probably just rolling they're own smokes. n/t
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:44 PM
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8. This was one of my main arguments against SCHIP last year..
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 04:46 PM by Ghost in the Machine
"I Am A Dem Against SCHIP: Let Me Tell You Why"
Tue Oct-16-07 12:40 AM by root

First off, I think everyone should have medical insurance. I don't want to see children OR adults suffering and/or dying needlessly because they can't afford health care.

The problem with SCHIP is this: They are proposing a 61 cent tax on every pack of cigarettes. This is putting the burden of paying for healthcare for everyone right on the shoulders of smokers.

Now, you might say "so what?" or "who cares" without giving it any rational thought. Especially the non-smokers, but even worse, the anti smoking 'smoke nazis' who would just as soon shoot you for smoking as they would look at you.

The bottom line is this: The Bill is fundamentally flawed in its conception. Smokers are already a dwindling base of tax support. With the new anti smoking laws going into effect in several states, more people will be trying to quit, many of them successfully.

As this tax base shrinks, they are either going to want to raise that tax again..... or find a new tax base. Why don't they just rewrite the Bill a little and expand the tax to alcoholic beverages too? It would make more sense, to begin with. It gives you a broader tax base and a more stable tax base."


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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:47 PM
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9. Well there are probably people like me who moved to Tobacco products that are not heavily taxed.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 04:47 PM by MiltonF
I no longer smoke cigarettes but do enjoy a pipe at night and use nasal snuff during the day.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 04:52 PM
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10. Thank you for funding this stadium with your smoking, now stand behind the yellow line....
Cigarrette taxation is the most completely retarded thing in our entire country right now.
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