Gallup and Other Neocon Propaganda Firms Calling Themselves Pollsters
In 1940 George Gallup, always in the pay of Republicans,
forecast on election night a tie between Franklin Roosevelt and Wendell
Wilkie. He was way off.
In 1948 George Gallup on election night said that Thomas Dewey was 5
points ahead of Harry Truman. He was wrong.
Just as virtually every 'voting machine' (vote manipulation) company in the US
is owned by Republicans, so are the pollsters connected
to neocon media. USA Today has just laid off 1000 workers.
People don't want to read war propaganda.
Democratic candidates who want an accurate picture of
the electorate's views seldom use Gallup.
The neocon 'pollster' game is to discourage the left through lies
1. Gallup and other neocon pollsters poll more Republicans than Democrats
2. Gallup and other neocon pollsters shortchange the young and cellphone users
because it doesn't have access to those numberes
George Gallup Jr is a right wing prowar Christian, an oxymoron.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/29/0450/00861 The Gallup Poll debunked
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/29/po...er=rssuserlandhttp://www.aim.org/publications/aim_.../1977/09b.htmlhttp://www.pollster.com/blogs/gallup...st_thing_i.phphttp://www.americanpolitics.com/1125...sSchmolls.htmlhttp://www.davekopel.org/Media/Sorry-wrong-number.htm*******************************
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from the dailykos link above
...At issue: Whether too many Republicans end up being counted as "likely voters" in Gallup's polls. In the past six USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup polls this year, about 40% of the likely voters in the surveys said they considered themselves to be Republicans. By one measure, that's higher than might be expected: Exit polls after the past three presidential elections showed that about 35% of voters in those years said they were Republicans.
Peter Schurman, MoveOn.org's director, said Tuesday that Gallup "should admit its mistake and correct it by using samples that more closely reflect" likely turnout.
Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup Poll, said the critics don't understand the science behind the polls. "This issue has been the subject of intense scholarly discussion and years of research. We're confident in what we're doing," he said.
Actually, it's what Gallup doesn't do that is at the heart of the debate. The polling firm does not adjust its "pool" of voters to add or subtract Republicans or Democrats in an effort to mirror those parties' estimated make-ups.
Among the reasons Gallup doesn't try to do that:
* It believes there are no reliable data on which to estimate exactly how many Republicans or Democrats there are in the country. Some states, for example, don't require voters to register by party affiliation. Basing an adjustment on previous year's exit polls, "means you're 'weighting' one poll based on the results of another poll, which has its own built-in sampling error," Newport said.
* It believes party affiliation "is an attitude, not a demographic trait" and that voters can change their minds about which party they identify with more than once during an election year, Newport said. That would explain, he said, why the number of people who identified themselves as Republicans went down during this year's Democratic primaries -- when Kerry and his competitors were in the news.
Most polling firms use the same methods as Gallup when identifying party affiliations. Among those are the surveys done by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. Andrew Kohut, the center's director, said in a statement last week that "important shifts in voter sentiment" could be missed if pollsters tried to apply rigid party formulas to results.
But not all pollsters agree with Gallup's approach. John Zogby is CEO of the independent polling firm Zogby International.
He adjusts the voter pools in his surveys to mirror party affiliations expressed in earlier exit polls. "I am one of the heretics in the polling industry," he said Tuesday. He maintains that "there are variations in people's party affiliations, but they aren't changing much daily, weekly or even monthly."
Critics say the debate over Gallup's work is important because the media's reporting of polls can affect the dynamics of a campaign. "We need the most accurate information possible. Next week the stories could be 'Kerry's surging in the polls,' but would that be true?" asks Markos Moulitsas Zniga, who's dailykos.com blog is a popular site for liberals.
Norman, however, said that Gallup's "overall record since 1988 on presidential elections, senate races and the national vote on congressional elections is as good as anyone's. And their record in the 2002 elections was clearly the best."
Here is the complete history of the Gallup poll this year from the same USA TODAY article & low & behold, in the polls where there are more republicans Bush does better, & in the polls with an equal number of respondents Kerry does better. Does it take Mr. Spock with Vulcan logic explaining that to Gallup for them to figure it out? Also, one other thing I noticed is that it's either a republican margin or even, dems never have a big advantage in the poll...
GREATER NUMBERS
The Gallup Poll asks voters to identify their party affiliation after they tell pollsters whom they would vote for if the election were that day. How the party affiliations compare with poll results among likely voters:
Jan. 9-11
BUSH 55
KERRY 43
Republican respondents 39%
Independent respondents 30%
Democratic respondents 31%
GOP advantage 8%
Jan. 29-Feb. 1
BUSH 46
KERRY 53
Republican respondents 36%
Independent respondents 30%
Democratic respondents 35%
GOP advantage 1%
Feb. 6-8
BUSH 49
KERRY 48
Republican respondents 37%
Independent respondents 31%
Democratic respondents 32%
GOP advantage 5%
Feb. 16-17
BUSH 43
KERRY 55
Republican respondents 32%
Independent respondents 33%
Democratic respondents 36%
GOP advantage -4%
March 5-7
BUSH 44
KERRY 52
Republican respondents 35%
Independent respondents 26%
Democratic respondents 40%
GOP advantage -5%
March 26-28
BUSH 51
KERRY 47
Republican respondents 44%
Independent respondents 23%
Democratic respondents 32%
GOP advantage 12%
April 5-8*
BUSH 48
KERRY 45
Republican respondents 41%
Independent respondents 24%
Democratic respondents 34%
GOP advantage 7%
April 16-18
BUSH 51
KERRY 46
Republican respondents 41%
Independent respondents 25%
Democratic respondents 34%
GOP advantage 7%
May 2-4*
BUSH 48
KERRY 49
Republican respondents 38%
Independent respondents 23%
Democratic respondents 38%
GOP advantage 0%
May 7-9
BUSH 48
KERRY 47
Republican respondents 37%
Independent respondents 30%
Democratic respondents 33%
GOP advantage 4%
May 21-23
BUSH 47
KERRY 49
Republican respondents 38%
Independent respondents 26%
Democratic respondents 34%
GOP advantage 4%
June 3-6*
BUSH 44
KERRY 50
Republican respondents 36%
Independent respondents 27%
Democratic respondents 36%
GOP advantage 0%
June 21-23
BUSH 49
KERRY 48
Republican respondents 36%
Independent respondents 28%
Democratic respondents 37%
GOP advantage -1%
July 8-11
BUSH 46
KERRY 50
Republican respondents 38%
Independent respondents 24%
Democratic respondents 38%
GOP advantage 0%
July 19-21
BUSH 47
KERRY 49
Republican respondents 41%
Independent respondents 23%
Democratic respondents 35%
GOP advantage 6%
July 30-Aug. 1
BUSH 51
KERRY 47
Republican respondents 42%
Independent respondents 23%
Democratic respondents 34%
GOP advantage 8%
Aug. 9-11*
BUSH 50
KERRY 47
Republican respondents 40%
Independent respondents 25%
Democratic respondents 34%
GOP advantage 6%
Aug. 23-25
BUSH 50
KERRY 47
Republican respondents 38%
Independent respondents 29%
Democratic respondents 32%
GOP advantage 6%
Sept. 3-5
BUSH 52
KERRY 45
Republican respondents 40%
Independent respondents 27%
Democratic respondents 33%
GOP advantage 7%
Sept. 13-15*
BUSH 55
KERRY 42
Republican respondents 40%
Independent respondents 27%
Democratic respondents 33%
GOP advantage 7%
Sept. 24-26
BUSH 52
KERRY 44
Republican respondents 43%
Independent respondents 25%
Democratic respondents 31%
GOP advantage 12%
Source: Gallup Polls; those marked with an asterisk were conducted independent of USA TODAY and CNN