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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:13 PM
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If you could eliminate one fundamental human shortcoming, what would it be?
Greed? Fear? Superstition? Lust? Tribalism?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:14 PM
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1. avarice
but they say that all sins come from vanity
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:14 PM
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2. greed or pride
the elimination of greed would be better for the planet
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:14 PM
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3. Lying
That would take care of a lot of problems in of itself.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:14 PM
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4. Ignorance.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:25 PM
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19. I agree, but I would say WILLFUL Ignorance
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 04:26 PM by hughee99
You can't really blame someone for not having information that is not available to them, but you can certainly blame them for ignoring what is right in front of them. IMHO, this is really the only shortcoming without any kind of upside. Any human shortcoming can be taken too far (and it certainly is) and have negative effects, but you can make the case that in moderation pride, lust, and even fear and greed do have some (if limited) upside.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:15 PM
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5. HYPOCRISY
It would spell doom for those who are part of the 30% "majority."
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:18 PM
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9. what is the "30% majority"?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:32 PM
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55. "Majority"
I put "majority" in quotation marks, because even though they've been in the minority, they Still Think they're the majority, as demonstrated by the fact they continue to do whatever they want, regardless of what 70% of the American people think.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:59 PM
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66. repukes?
religiously insane wack jobs?

white males?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:17 PM
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6. bad breath
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:21 PM
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17. considering the varied causes for bad breath
its elimination would be a laudable achievement
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:17 PM
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7. Greed. What's wrong with Trbalism? Isn't that "community?" n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:19 PM
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12. It also can breed an "us versus them" group mentality
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 04:33 PM by leftofthedial
that promotes hate, distrust and defeats cooperation
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:55 PM
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35. gotcha...xenophobia, rabid nationalism, etc...thanks nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:58 PM
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37. thank YOU
xenophobia would have been a better word.

this damned cold has my brain clogged.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:17 PM
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8. The need to talk on a cell phone and drive at the same time.
;)

On a serious note, getting rid of lying and greed would go a long way to making our world a better place.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:18 PM
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10. Greed.
If there is any sin a devil would love more than anything else on earth, I would say it's pure, unadulterated, visceral greed. Greed for land, greed for resources, greed for money, greed for power--it's all there.

Throughout history, the human struggle has been marked by those who wanted more against those who wanted to keep what they had. For those who wanted more, what they had was not enough. They had to take entire cities and civilizations to satiate their hunger. Even then, that was not enough, and when there were no more cities and civilizations to claim, they turned inward on themselves and began eating each other and ripping up all that they had conquered, destroying what little civilization was left.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:19 PM
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11. hypocrisy. nt
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:19 PM
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13. Bush, Cheney, or both.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:51 AM
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96. In the short term, highly gratifying
but in the long term, there is always another turd waiting to float to the top. They are but a symptom of a multifaceted disease, a disease that will mean the end of our species if we don't deal with it.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:56 AM
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111. Unconsciousness. We need to be aware if we are to survive as a species.
We need to care what happens to the planet and to one another, we need to nurture the living beings that exist (from the bottom of the ocean to the top of the atmosphere). We won't succeed without awareness (Love).
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:20 PM
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14. Not listening to your conscience.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:20 PM
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15. Failure to wash one's hands after using the restroom
:nuke:
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:20 PM
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16. No Brainer
Greed

Takes a slice out of the root of all evil!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:24 PM
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18. I hate fucking LIARS
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:41 PM
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57. Then you shouldn't fuck them...
Sorry I couldn't help myself. :7
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:07 PM
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68. heh heh heh
I'm going to remember that one ... and use it.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:26 PM
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20. Pride. It sounds dull
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 04:39 PM by sammythecat
but when I think about it, it seems that Pride is somehow involved in every other sin.

Someway, somehow, Pride is one of the ingredients and it's often the first. Think of a sin, any sin. Do a geneology on it and you'll find Pride.

On further review, outright monkey-lust might have nothing to do with pride. But then, outright monkey-lust might not really be a shortcoming. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:26 PM
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21. Reactivity., So we would give our frontal cortex a chance to work.
:)
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:26 PM
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22. Mindless reproduction
If people want to have children after giving it some careful thought and making sure they have the resources, good for them, I say. But producing more humans for no reason at all except that someone wanted to have sex, or because some self-styled leader told you that having babies is a duty, or because you think that it's what you're supposed to do, is what's going to destroy us and a lot of other species as well.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:55 AM
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97. Yep
My family just went through the process of deciding if we were going to try to have a child. Discussion of such volatile topics in a committee discussion (5-6 adults in our family at any one time) could have been a recipe for disaster but amazingly wasn't. After a long discussion, we decided not to bring another child into the world. But I do think that thoughtful reproduction on a limited basis is ok. Even though I'm a bit sad that I'm not going to have a child, I'm happy with the way this was handled.
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ends_dont_justify Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:27 PM
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23. Prejaduism
The fact 'prejaduism' to the majority of human beings means against other human beings is a prime example of this. Considering the way animals and plants are treated.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:27 PM
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24. Lying...it takes care of a multitude of other problems.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:35 PM
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25. Money
Money should be made illegal. All goods are exchanged.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:57 PM
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36. That would certainly make life more complicated...
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 04:58 PM by hughee99
I'd have a hell of a time paying my bills. Each month, or perhaps on a yearly basis, I'd have to spend some time doing work, (or trading goods, I guess) for the town (property taxes, excise taxes and water bill), the state (for state taxes), the federal government (fed taxes), the bank (mortgage), the electric company, phone company, grocery stores, golf courses, bars, convenience stores, clothing stores, movie theaters, car companies, day care... hoping that I have some good or service that they're willing to accept in trade (otherwise, I guess I'm out of luck). Then when I get older and am no longer able to do some things that I can do now, I better have a lot of goods saved up (maybe in a warehouse somewhere) since I won't have any retirement savings, nor will I necessarily have the ability to perform services for them.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:00 PM
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40. Well all utilities would be free
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 05:00 PM by Annces
You only barter special items.

Anything that a person needs as a necessity would be free.

I don't know how it would work, but given human ingenuity, we could work something out.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:06 PM
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45. IMHO,
it's not money, but the love of money that's the issue. I think that's from the Bible, I'm not a big fan, but it's not always wrong either.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:56 AM
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98. Money is just a go between for bartering
But of course, it got out of control for some folk.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:23 AM
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135. when currency was removed from any standard (gold, silver, etc.)
and became a commodity itself (capitalism)

things became unsurvivable for our species.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:39 PM
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26. mortality. n/t
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:39 PM
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27. Envy
People are always envious of other peoples things, power, money, etc. I think getting rid of envy leads to the elimination of many other "evils"
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:40 PM
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28. Greed hands down!
If it wasn't for greed, we wouldn't have the Iraq war,PNAC, and the idiots in the WH would be so bored, they'd forget about politics altogether. Which would be a GOOD thing.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:41 PM
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29. Greed
My first instinct is fear, but you need that to know when to get out of the way of a moving vehicle. Then maybe lying, but people would tell the truth and manipulate anyway, like the Bushies. So I think eliminating greed would do the greatest good, especially if it were expanded to include sex, highs, power, etc.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:45 PM
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30. Their mindset.
Seeing everything in terms of black-and-white, especially making their opinion superior to that of others.

Accepting as faith versus thinking critically with logic, analysis, and skepticism.

Promoting the Bible as the final authority of all religions including wanting it to supplant the U.S. Constitution but yet they are not literate in either the Old or New Testament.

Wanting the "nonbelievers" to follow their hypocritical lifestyle by using the government to enact their morality.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:45 PM
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31. greed
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:49 PM
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32. Inability to interpret the bleeding obvious.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:49 PM
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33. lack of empathy
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:00 PM
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41. Another vote for "Lack of Empathy"
If these fuckers could empathize, we'd all be better off. They would not call civilian causalities "collateral damage."
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:14 PM
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51. A third, as well...
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:42 AM
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137. I'll 4th that!
Does lack of empathy not come from stupidity?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:55 PM
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34. Avarice


because when you constantly want more, you develop the other habits to feed your need.


Hatred of those who have more; then hatred of those who have less.

Fear of those who might stop you from getting more.

Conjuring rumours and superstition about people who might keep you from getting more.

Never being at peace, willing to be violent to have more.

It goes on....
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:58 PM
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38. Intolerance n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:04 PM
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43. damn straight!
if there is one thing I can't tolerate, it's . . .

well, you know what I mean.

Whatever happened to "live and let live" in this country anyway?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:58 AM
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99. It never existed
much like "The American Dream". Part of our mythos.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:59 PM
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39. Indecisiveness. No, wait ...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:02 PM
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42. LOL
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:05 PM
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44. lack of empathy
If we could truly understand one another's pain, I think there would be fewer assaults, murders, and torture incidents.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:06 PM
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46. Lack Of Intellect.
Once you reach a certain level of true depth of intellect, the majority of all other ills, with exceptions of course, tend to disappear.

Except for Lust though. Lust is cool. I love Lust. :)
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:07 PM
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47. Right now I'm thinking .... skepticism.




After reading some recent posts.






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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:07 PM
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48. Lack of empathy/selfishness
If people knew that all life is truly equal and that people other than themselves are real and have real feelings and really do matter, maybe they wouldn't be so cruel.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:50 PM
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62. I'll go with that
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:10 PM
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49. opposable thumbs
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:11 PM
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50. Intentional ignorance.
The right-wing disease. In all its forms and degrees.



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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:15 PM
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52. Ill-will towards others
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:26 PM
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53. Fear
I can't think of any other shortcomings that don't have fear as a root cause or at least a contributing factor.

Greed--fear of not having enough to survive (although to some people "survival" means being able to buy groceries, to others it means not having enough to maintain status in one's tribe, even if that status is dependent on stupid stuff like the right kind of car). I also suspect that a lot of greed has its roots in low self-esteem, which can cause people to fear that others will judge and look down on them unless they hide that low self-esteem with a veneer of the things that money can buy
Hate and intolerance--duh
Violence--duh
Closed-mindedness--fear of the unknown, fear that one's own beliefs and worldview may be challenged and found wanting
Depression and/or weltschmertz (not a shortcoming but certainly a problem)--fear that life will never get better or that life has no meaning and that happiness is difficult to achieve

I guess anger is sometimes not necessarily a fear thing but just a frustration thing. Sometimes we get angry when someone cuts us off in traffic or when our Constitution is subverted--little stuff like that--and that's dangerous and fear-producing, but sometimes we get angry when a neighbor plants a tree that obstructs our view or somebody takes a parking spot we'd been waiting for--just relatively little frustrations.

But overall, I think most of the world's ills can be traced to fear of one thing or another.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:38 AM
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136. What a nice post.
Although I believe fear is part of the deal here on earth; learning to be aware of it and respond appropriately to it is our life-long task.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:31 PM
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54. Their Y chromosome.
Let them know how it feels.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:51 PM
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63. What?
The Y chromosome is a human shortcoming?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:54 PM
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64. I guess everyone has to hate someone
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:12 AM
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87. Do I detect bitterness?
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 01:14 AM by quantessd
I get so annoyed when somebody says something dumb like this. Sorry, but it is really an unnecessary, "flamebait" thing to say.

Actually, if you eliminated the Y chromosome, there would be no males, no spontaneous reproduction, and just an Earth full of female clones. On the bright side, there would be no unwanted children.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:06 PM
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115. No bitterness.
My preacher was making a poor attempt at explaining why some males are gay.
Threw me for a loop too.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:43 PM
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116. Oh. Sorry I misunderstood.
:hi:
And anyway, doesn't your preacher know that all males have a Y chromosome, gay or straight?
Or does he think that men have one fewer rib than women? Sheesh.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:39 PM
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126. You're not going to believe this, but....
the preacher's name is ADAM!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:01 AM
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100. You want the world to be 100% female?
I don't always understand 'em but I'd still like to keep the XYs around.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:33 PM
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56. Hubris.
Lust for death.
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MindBoggles Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:45 PM
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58. Greed.
Hands down.

The love of money is the root of all evil. One of the few maxims in the Bible with which I wholeheartedy agree.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:47 PM
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59. The ability to eliminate fundamental human shortcomings.
No human is qualified to have this power.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:48 PM
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60. dishonesty in all forms.
the truth shall set us free.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:49 PM
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61. malice
Get rid of most of the bad stuff in one shot.

First take out malice. After that, it'll be safe to take out stupidity. Then things will be truly fine.

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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:55 PM
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65. Hate n/t
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:03 PM
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67. Bigotry. eom
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:10 PM
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69. Apathy
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:10 PM
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70. Conservatism
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:10 PM
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71. Greed. "The Pardoner's Tale" makes the point that avarice is, indeed, the root of ALL evil.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:20 PM
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72. The seemingly endless need for total control of everything
Which actually would, I guess, eliminate my nomination.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:21 PM
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73. Greed.
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scorpiogirl Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:59 PM
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74. Greed n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:13 PM
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75. Of your 5? Definitely superstition, because then nobody would
believe that their religious text is divinely written and the other guy's isn't.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:13 PM
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76. Gulibility...we suck for the absurd...then we believe it....to be true...
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:19 PM
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77. Denial.
Being honest in life means you first have to be honest with yourself.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:19 PM
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78. Sociopathy
Call them sociopaths, psychopaths, or people with Antisocial Personality Disorder. They're the ones who hurt others without a shred of care. They're about 4% of the general population. Our prisons are filled with these characters. And so are our governments and boardrooms - the ones that have no compuntions against stabbing their fellow people in the back and putting their boots on people's heads to get a leg up.

That trait needs to be systematically eradicated from the human race.
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HardRocker05 Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:49 PM
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79. meanness, followed by irrationality. nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:28 PM
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80. selfishness
Almost all human failings are rooted in selfishness.Greed,fear,lust,pride, etc,etc..are all manifestations of selfishness.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:31 PM
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81. self-rightous hypocrisy
Without a doubt.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:32 PM
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82. Racism
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:33 PM
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83. Stupidity. The world population would be about 5 million.
:eyes:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:47 PM
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84. Selfishness (nt)
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:55 AM
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85. INDIFFERENCE
The Perils of Indifference
Elie Wiesel

(excerpt)

In a way, to be indifferent to that suffering is what makes the human being inhuman. Indifference, after all, is more dangerous than anger and hatred. Anger can at times be creative. One writes a great poem, a great symphony, one does something special for the sake of humanity because one is angry at the injustice that one witnesses. But indifference is never creative. Even hatred at times may elicit a response. You fight it. You denounce it. You disarm it. Indifference elicits no response. Indifference is not a response.

Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten. The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees -- not to respond to their plight, not to relieve their solitude by offering them a spark of hope is to exile them from human memory. And in denying their humanity we betray our own.

Indifference, then, is not only a sin, it is a punishment. And this is one of the most important lessons of this outgoing century's wide-ranging experiments in good and evil.

In the place that I come from, society was composed of three simple categories: the killers, the victims, and the bystanders. During the darkest of times, inside the ghettoes and death camps -- and I'm glad that Mrs. Clinton mentioned that we are now commemorating that event, that period, that we are now in the Days of Remembrance -- but then, we felt abandoned, forgotten. All of us did.

And our only miserable consolation was that we believed that Auschwitz and Treblinka were closely guarded secrets; that the leaders of the free world did not know what was going on behind those black gates and barbed wire; that they had no knowledge of the war against the Jews that Hitler's armies and their accomplices waged as part of the war against the Allies.

If they knew, we thought, surely those leaders would have moved heaven and earth to intervene. They would have spoken out with great outrage and conviction. They would have bombed the railways leading to Birkenau, just the railways, just once.


The full speech (text & audio) is available @ http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/wiesel.htm




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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:12 AM
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86. The lust for power.
It only seems to afflict a small percentage of the human race, but those few make life miserable for everyone else.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:19 AM
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88. Fear HANDS DOWN!
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
Bertrand Russell,
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:04 AM
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101. Wisdom ends when the tiger kills you
Be careful what you wish for...................
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:45 AM
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140. Fear of the things we don't understand is the issue
not the natural fears we need for survival.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:14 AM
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89. free will
:evilgrin:

just kidding!

most likely selfishness, for it is the root of all evil. the only problem with that is it is remarkably challenging to develop an individual personality while being *only* selfless. no real interest in making humanity into an ant colony. but humans have the remarkable capacity of both being deeply selfless and giving while retaining an individualized sense of self. it's that remarkable free will thing...
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:27 AM
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90. Hate n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:28 AM
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91. Lust.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:54 AM
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92. BIGOTRY!
It seems to "enjoyable" for many a person.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:04 AM
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93. Another vote for Greed here - whether for money or power nt
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:14 AM
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94. shopping
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:49 AM
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95. Fear maybe
I suspect a total elimination of fear would be a bad thing but I just hate the way people cluster around a "leader" when they are frightened like children to their parent. It's lead us down some really stupid and mean spirited paths in our history including the one unfolding in America right here, right now.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:18 AM
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102. Greed.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:22 AM
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103. Ego - The root of everything listed above.
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:23 AM by Beelzebud
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:19 PM
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125. You beat me to it
I agree completely. Without ego, all those other things would just go away...
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:57 PM
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131. But to get rid of ego, you are no longer human, How to get rid
of ego? I doubt you are 'rid of ego' or you wouldn't be posting in this forum.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:41 AM
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143. Correct. For me to have no ego would mean I had evolved past human.
46&2 Just ahead of me.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:25 AM
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104. greed
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:28 AM
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105. I love them all equally and just can't choose.
It's almost like Sophie's Choice.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:30 AM
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106. Ignorance. It takes care of a few on the list.
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michaelwb Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:34 AM
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107. easy
Not worshiping me as a god.

Really it is humanity greatest flaw. :P
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:35 AM
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108. Oneupmanship.

Well, really, I'd say greed, but since oneupmanship really chaps me, I thought I'd add it here.
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shield20 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:36 AM
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109. Lying - no doubt at all. n/t
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:44 AM
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SELFISHNESS is at the root of it all
That's why people are greedy, hating, deceitful, etc. That's why people vote for Republicans too.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:44 AM
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110. Fear.
In my opinion, I think fear is the foundation that many of the other shortcomings rest on.

Fear of "others" can result in tribalism, nationalism, and other types of "isms" that create an "us" against "them" mentality.

Fear of "scarcity" can, I think, contribute to greed; combine it with fear of not being "good enough" and you can get someone who compensates by "buying the most toys" and "never having enough."

Fear of "others" can also lead to hatred of others or difference which then contributes to tribalism, nationalism, etc.

If we combine fear of being alone with normal human sexual desires we can come up with more examples of fear resulting in anti-survival "behaviors" and ways of thinking.

Fear of the unknown can lead us to superstition.

Fear of being seen as weak can lead to "oneupmanship" as someone else listed.

Someone who is fearful, afraid to step outside their "comfort zone" can lead to ignorance and intolerance.

There aren't too many human shortcomings I can think of can't be traced, at least in part, to fear.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:01 AM
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112. Self-centeredness is the ROOT of many of the other shortcomings named on this thread.
Eliminating THAT would eliminate almost every other problem.

"Love your neighbor as much as your SELF; this is the entirety of the law."
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:31 AM
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113. blind devotion to stupid people. nt
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:59 AM
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114. The sense of superiority...
...over all other lifeforms on the planet. The idiotic notion that humans are in some way inherrently more valuable, more important, more entitled, more deserving, and all-around "better" than any other lifeform, rather than being just one (very destructive!) species among millions that exist, and ever did exist through time. The ridiculous self-centered posturing, as though the whole universe were made specifically for them. The reprehensible speciesism, in short.

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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:50 PM
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117. Jealousy
and vindictiveness the two always seem to walk hand in hand and then end up in a self righteous zeal.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:56 PM
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118. I'm divided between the 'herd instinct' against 'outsiders', and the need for revenge
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:03 PM
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119. I'd replace self-interest with group-interest. NT.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:13 PM
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120. Fear. It is the basis of most of the other shortcomings.
Greed? Fear of not having enough, fear of being looked down upon because you don't have more than anyone else.
Pride? Fear of not being considered the best. Fear of not having control.
Intolerance? Fear of others having some control or your lack thereof.
Selfishness? Same. Racism? Bigotry? All fear run.

Is selfishness run by fear, or fear by selfishness? I think fear is the root of it all. Fear of lack of control. Fear of not being the center of everything.
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:13 PM
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121. The fundamental shortcoming of humankind I'd eliminate is...
their well-nigh-universal reluctance, inexplicable to the point of bafflement, to lavish gifts, money, love, and undying respect and admiration upon yours truly!
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:15 PM
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122. Flatulence...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:23 PM
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123. Bigotry or maybe that would be Tribalism.
Bigotry is a flaw that unscrupulous politicians and parties can appeal to in gaining their support and thereby gaining power. Hitler did it with the Germans by appealing to their distrust of Jews and to a lesser degree Slavs. It made the atrocities of the concentration camps seem necessary as well as the invasion of their slavic neighbors, Poland and Czechoslavakia making pre-emptive war seem reasonable.

I don't need to point out what the GOP and BushCo have done to gain power. They have appealed to the homophobia, misogynism (abortion and pro-life issues) and racism (border issues) of the American people to gain their edge, which is not a majority but enough for them to unscrupulously gain power through cheating on elections and other legal means of consolidating their power.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:12 PM
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124. Religion/supersition.
Get rid of those, and you get rid of most of the other....or at least the justification for them.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:43 PM
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127. Not really
They will find other excuses. Look at white sumpremacists; most of them use junk science as their excuse.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:50 PM
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128. No such thing
That's a myth. There are no inherent flaws in human nature. Human nature is not inherently greedy or benevolent. To suggest such a thing conveniently avoids all questions/discussions of the systemic nature and casts blame on the individual.

There are a constellation of experiences that shape our behaviors that by far supercede any so-called fundamental human nature.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:20 PM
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129. Cool. That's a really interesting & worthwhile statement and I'm glad you brought it up,
even though you came to the party late.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:44 AM
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138. that reminds me of the fundamental flaw I'd get rid of
the need to connect the dots and "explain" things that simply are.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:45 AM
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139. Ah - you'll declare victory by terminological fiat...
... any example that patently IS inherent, you'll simply declare to NOT be a flaw...

That's cute.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:35 PM
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130. Dishonesty
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:06 AM
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132. Self Indulgent Addictions. nt
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:08 AM
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133. Penis Envy
:wow:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:17 AM
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134. Insecurity/jealosy.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 12:46 AM
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141. Republican
Or maybe baby-eating if not that
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 04:08 AM
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142. materialism
it is just sickening
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:44 AM
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144. Greed is the cause of so many more problems
So I say greed.
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