Have You Ever Seen The ASPCA Sarah McLaughlin Ads "Angel"?

Needed a 527 ad against Palin showing aeriel hunting, the polar bears etc ending with this pic



The Angel Commercial

That is sadism at its worst.

I am so disgusted. This does need wider exposure.

Unless you know differently.

I'm disgusted by her allowing the shooting of wolves by plane. Something to do with not wanting the wolves to kill too many critters because the human hunters come first.

It just looks alive to me with the head raised & the right foreleg seems to have some muscular action in it.

I'm pretty sure it's dead. If that's any consolation...:-(

I don't get the "sport" of gunning down an animal. I don't get the pride in displaying the corpse of an animal. I never will.

who lived behind us. They had a small truck farm surrounded by a new suburbia. Up in the yard hung a deer that the older sons who just shot. I went over to it and felt such unbelievable saddness from a gut level. Tears flow as I write this, reliving that feeling.

I do believe, if people need to hunt in order to survive (and these people did not need the deer to survive), ok. But to kill animals for the sport is not in my vocabulary of comprehension.

you eat what you kill, and you kill it as cleanly as possible then there is no problem.

J.

Just because they come covered in plastic does not mean that the conditions are that much better

I know, I worked at a chicken coup

Do you want me to share with you the conditions in the coup? What about the smell? Don't get me started on the ten dead chickens a day, and the mean roosters.

Or the fact that the chickens had the tip of their beaks removed.

City folks need to go down to their neighborhood farm... aka factory farm, and truly buy a clue

If you kill what you hunt it is not that different than you buying steak for tonight's dinner.

Now where I break with her are her wild life animal management theories. There you enter the realm of POLICY and leave the gut emotional level

at the creek that runs there. I admit, I lost my appetite. Yes, that trout eventually would have ended up on someone's plate, and "my" trout would have been caught sometime. But the immediate connection was a bit unnerving.

Visiting Alaska two years ago, and seeing how they skinned and smoked the salmon, again, I lost all appetite.

So, yes, I am a coward. Getting my meat and fish and chicken all carved up and wrapped in plastic, where there is no similarity to the source I can eat. And prefer not to think about what shape and form they were days or months earlier.

BTW, eggs should not be part of your list, unless someone is eating fertilized eggs which I don't think is what's available in the market..

And these were the images left - even now, I cannot erase them - from the movie: Fast Food Nation. Showing the cattle being moved into through the process of butchering, skinning and carving..

You're right, something like that is needed to target the animal lovers.

i start tearing up :(

and really don't have the space and means to take care of any more, and the frustration is sometimes unbearable.

owners abandoned 4 kittens and two parents and just moved away without them. :mad:

rescued with his Mom and sibs in Brooklyn, and we got him from a foster home. Our last, Black Jack must have heard about us, because a year ago on 10/17 at 5AM, when weirdly enough I was up and so was my younger son, we heard a cat crying at our door. We searched high and low for his persons, and never found them. I suspect he was abandoned when his people moved from the area. He was not a feral cat and was neutered. We never had plans to have more than 2 cats, but Jack had other thoughts in mind!

I feel so badly for him right now. My younger son, whom he was joined at the hip with just left for college as a Freshman, and Jack periodically cries out looking for him. He must be feeling abandoned all over again. Needless to say I give him extra attention and treats.

You need to send that suggestion to PETA or the Humane Society. That pic is so very sick to people who love animals. I will NEVER understand people who get a thrill out of this "sport". Why would you have your child there??

HSUS, ASPCA, PETA, Defenders of Wildlife are tax exempts so they are restricted as to political activity. They can lobby on an issue or educate the public on it, but IRRC they can't support or oppose a candidate for an office. But they sure do have a lot of material available.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=c406_090308palinwolf&JServSessionIdr012=ukfie3yvs2.app26a

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I mute it and go into the other room or turn off the TV.

animals.

certainly in Alaska. In many urban areas deers and other wild animals wonder in the streets and back yards since their habitat has been asphalts over. So, on occasion, local governments organize a hunt to "thin out" the population of deers.

The Angel commercial - which is hard to watch - is about abused pets. We should be able to distinguish between the two.

Remember when both Kerry and Romney tried to show that they, too, are hunters?

As an avid animal welfare person, we have to keep these issues separate. We can fight her on the wolf hunt and the Polar bear issue but we will not win with an anti-hunting commercial - we just won't. And in doing so we risk diminishing the impact of the original ad.

I think targeting the wolf-hunting would be more effective because of the reasoning behind it---wolves represent too much competition for human hunters.

But as sexist as this is going to sound, the fact that it's a woman doing the killing is going to make some people uncomfortable IMHO. It does me. It looks as though Palin is enjoying this - and encouraging her daughter to be a part of the kill.

And yes, I'm female. And yes, that's a sexist view, I suppose, but I think it is legitimate.

Frankly, the video that I've seen with her shooting the automatic weapon made me cringe. She looks like she's trying to be Rambo or something.

All of this information goes toward the general picture we are forming of Sarah Palin - and that picture thus far, at least, shows a nut case, a control freak and someone who can be just plain mean.

If you judge a woman differently than a man for the same behavior, it's sexist. And sexist attacks give them ammunition. There is enough here to go after her for without giving them a built-in defense to distract from the real point.

For how many hunters is hunting a "way of life"? I would guess not very many, compared with the overall population of the United States.

For most hunters it's a hobby. Now, having said that, I'm not going to argue that the mythology of hunting is very powerful and that it might not get the hobbyist hunters up in arms (pardon the pun) if they felt that hunting was being attacked. But really, "hunting" for men has become like "sewing" for women. Most who practice it have leisure time and money to spare. Sure, the extra meat might be a bonus, but they're hardly doing it out of desperation to "put food on their family." Notice I said MOST not ALL. I'm well aware that there are still subsistence hunters out there, probably most of them are in Alaska. But I hardly think the election would turn on the subsistence hunters' votes.

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In just a few weeks, hunting season will start in many northern states. Ducks, deers.. part of the ritual in many families.

And, as I mentioned, in 2004 Kerry went hunting to show that he is one of the guys..

:puke: I hope they all get tick feaver, fleas, and worms.

Especially if one of the experiments is going toward cancer research, or AIDS, or whatever really.

Whether they're hunted for sport, food, locked in cages for our entertainment, given life by us for no other reason than to be chopped up by machines and sold, or involuntarily experimented on for strictly our benefit, we're all doing our part in this.

It's a nice idea, but in the name of equal opportunity fairness, I don't think you have every base covered.

Ever see the "How It's Made" episode with a baby chicken segment? All cute, and yellow, and tweet-tweet-tweeting. It's a good one.

I start welling up the second that ad comes on, always without warning.

Fuck you, Sarah Palin, and the moose you rode in on and then killed.

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I used to hunt but not any more. Got WAY to macho and weekend warrior for me, but I lived in the country and so... I digress.

I remember listening to a great interview on NPR with either Diane Rheem (sp?) or Ray Suarez, about 3 or 4 years ago. The point was that we spend enough on pets, not livestock, house pets, nationally, at that time, to give every person in this country an insurance policy for Federal Gov. level health care. Hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars.

Now, I hope you don't think I am insinuating that donations to the ASPCA and local orgs. are unnecessary, as it is your money, and I have 3 pets myself, but I do think it is interesting the juxtaposition in priorities when my 65 year old mother, a woman who runs a halfway house for women with eating disorders, and works as a nurse in a locked geriatric unit to live, can't even go to the doctor, I front her blood pressure meds, and she has to go to Mexico for a dentist.

Sorry, I just think the whole thing sucks that the .gov AND 95% percent of the people you see everyday are just out for THEIR "family", regardless of species, and frankly, regardless of political persuasion. I see very little human compassion in feeding your cat Iams over Purina when people can't get FREE antibiotics at COSTCO for lack of funds for the doctors visit to get a prescription.

Nothing against pets, just priorities. Little Fluffy dosen't need Science Diet, try Ol'Roy, dog won't care, its a dog. Damn things PREFER rotten bologna and dead birds, trust me.

Speaking of blood pressure meds.