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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:22 PM
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Soldiers sent on evangelistic Christian religious retreat vacations w/government funds
Please read the entire short article as I can't excerpt all the best bits!

Baseball, Jesus, and Alaska's Military Bases
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/9/235113/0696

I should back up here and explain exactly what Strong Bonds, a program currently being investigated by MRFF, actually is. Plain and simple, it's an evangelistic Christian program operating under the guise of a pre-deployment and post-deployment family wellness and marriage training program. A few years ago, Strong Bonds replaced a decade old, proven program called Building Strong and Ready Families (BSRF), which was a collaboration between the Army Nurse Corps and the chaplains. Strong Bonds cut out the Nurse Corps, creating a program run entirely by chaplains, eliminating the important physical and mental health aspects provided by public health nurses, and turning the whole thing into a program of Christian religious retreats -- paid for with your tax dollars. A lot of tax dollars.

It began with the Department of Defense (DoD) paying an advertising agency $100,000 to "sell" the Strong Bonds program to Congress. The result of the DoD's ad campaign was an unprecedented amount of funding, now being spent liberally on religious retreats, typically held at ski lodges, beach resorts, and other attractive vacation spots, luring soldiers who would never attend a religious retreat to sign up for the free vacation. MRFF founder and president Mikey Weinstein sums up this form of coercion with the following analogy:

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MRFF has already amassed quite a collection of DoD contracts for Strong Bonds retreats, which include funding for travel and accommodations, training materials, outside trainers, child care, and, of course, Christian entertainers. That one Unlimited Potential baseball ministry thing at Fort Wainwright, for example, cost taxpayers $38,269. And, this same ministry has been "Serving Christ Through Baseball" at number of other Army bases in the United States, including Fort Bragg, Fort Benning, and Fort Drum, as well as many bases overseas, presumably at a similar cost per event.

But, of even greater concern than the clear constitutional violation of the spending of tax dollars on this scheme to promote Christianity, qualified health professionals like the Army Nurse Corps are being edged out of programs dealing with issues like PTSD, drug and alcohol abuse, and suicide prevention in favor of a religious approach. And, Strong Bonds isn't the only place this is happening. MRFF has uncovered that suicide prevention in the military now often includes materials such as the teachings of Rick Warren and, completely unbelievably, the teaching of creationism.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:25 PM
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1. K&R
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:40 PM
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2. OH CHEEZITS, THIS MUST STOP
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:41 PM
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9. That sums up my reaction to a T.
Who are the DOD higher-ups that have pushed this and signed off on it, and when can we see their heads roll? I want NAMES.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:49 PM
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3. Quote: "It's like a time share promotion" - Say what? Could it get any weirder?
Baseball, Jesus, and Alaska's Military Bases

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/9/235113/0696

(snip)

It's like a time share sales promotion. You get an all expenses paid vacation at a great resort -- the only catch is you have to sit through a sales pitch for Christianity paid for by the United States armed forces, courtesy of the American taxpayer. The Strong Bonds program is nothing less than an unconstitutional scandal and an outrage"

:wow:
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:56 PM
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4. The warnings have been trickling out for several years now
that the military has been co-opted by fringenut Christianity as a recruitment ground for increasing its cult-membership. That has been going on right alongside the military being co-opted by neo-nazis, the Klan and every other form of hate-group, joined right at the hip with the fringenut Christians, taking advantage of training and techniques for their "armageddon" and the race-wars they keep nattering on about.

Our military isn't just "broken". It has become a bloody freakshow with every form of anti-social misfit and psychopath they can find to fill the ranks. Worse yet, the freaks are being paid -- and are getting bonuses -- on our dime.

It's bad enough that there are honorable, dedicated, patriotic men and women being abused by this administration. It is unconscionable and inexcusable that they are being subjected to the ministrations of honest-to-dog freaks and psychopaths right around them.

K/R
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:06 PM
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6. Uggggg
This article needs to be sent out to all media. Someone might cover it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:59 PM
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5. Somehow, I don't think they're hearing much about "Thou Shalt Not Killl"
Or, any of that other wussy stuff that Jesus taught.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:06 PM
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7. This is getting more and more bizarre.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 01:07 PM by Frustratedlady
What else have they been doing in Alaska? Isn't the owner of Blackwater into this stuff and tight with the RW evangelicals? Dear God, it looks like they are slowly infecting/brainwashing the people they need to take over this country. Black helicopters practicing in the dark in Denver, holding pens for protesters, controlling the MSM, reducing our military to an anemic level of protection, stirring up Russia, breaking the backs of the middle class and poor citizens, degrading our schools and our infrastructure. It's been happening right before our eyes.

Has Keith (or Rachel) seen this?
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:41 PM
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12. A little infor on Blackwater's connection with dominionism
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/9/18/122342/856/Dominionism_in_the_military/Blackwater_Blues_for_Dead_Iraqi_Civilians

That we know as much as we do about Blackwater USA is in part due to the first-rate reporting of several journalists, including The Nation magazine's investigative reporter Jeremy Scahill. In his bestselling book "Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army" (Nation Books, 2007), Scahill describes the company as "a sort of Praetorian Guard for the Bush Administration's `global war on terror.'"

{prince}
"has been in the thick of this right-wing effort to unite conservative Catholics, evangelicals, and neoconservatives in a common theoconservative holy war."


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In addition to Prince, "A number of Blackwater executives are deeply conservative Christians, including corruption-smeared former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz, who is also a member of the Sovereign Order of Malta, which Scahill describes as `a Christian militia formed in the eleventh century `territories that the Crusaders had conquered from the Moslems,'" Chris Barsanti wote in a review of the book for In These Times.

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The two families {prince & DeVos} exercized enormous political influence both inside and outside Michigan. "They were one of the greatest bankrollers of far-right causes in U.S. history, and with their money they propelled extremist Christian politicians and activists to positions of prominence," Scahill writes.


Lots more here

DeVos Wages War On Public Education, But Meet His Brother In Law...
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/3/27/8527/72512

I can't stand to quote any more now or I will :puke:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:49 AM
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16. Thanks! At least my memory is still intact.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:14 PM
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8. I am so sick of the stealth takeover the RW evangelicals have
been promoting. We need to put our foot down and stop this crap!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:46 PM
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10. Secular Americans need to organize.
So we can fight this shit. 2nd day in a row I've said this.

I will not live in a theocracy.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:46 PM
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13. we also need to be armed and learn how to use firearms
sad but true.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:53 AM
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19. Yeah, if the RW understood why the liberals were abandoning
gun issues in campaign and as a practical matter, they'd be scared shitless.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:52 AM
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18. Unfuckingbelievable...and I'd forgotten the Blackwater connection ...

I need to add something about blackwater to the following image.

It is a Twilight Zone....




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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:38 PM
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11. I've said for some time these are the new christian crusades, this crap only substantiates that.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:14 PM
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14. Campus Crusade For Christ Seeks US Military "Government Paid Missionaries"
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sciouscience Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:53 PM
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15. my surname might be USARMY, but my first name will always be JESUS
in a related anecdote...

in march 2000 i was stationed at ft leonard wood in missouri for usarmy basic combat training. the first pleasantly distracting leave offered (at 8 weeks) to our platoon (scorpions!) was a "home-cooked meal and entertainment" provided by some local baptist church, i do not recall the name but i do recall the meal. and i recall the entertainment. they were kidding about both.

"thank you oh unnamed, pulaski county baptist church for the cafeteria-quality grub so heaved upon my gut, so graciously imploring, yea demanding, i eat more. for now i wonder dost ye believe if any shall swallow a new debt, shall all these souls relieve?"

attendance at this event was not mandatory but it was highly promoted, suggested with advisements of prolonged drilling and duty for any who dared remain, those few perhaps fearful of white school buses. after serving us a VERY SHITTY MEAL* they then brought on dessert. bible brulee. bible(s) jubilee. bibleberry shortcake. bible-upsidedown cake. bible cobbler. bible pie. bibleflan. death by bible. yum.

roughly 95% attended from our platoon but only about 15% found or re-claimed jesus. so maybe or maybe not it was worth the cash outlay for the church for a bunch more '-toting soldiers.'

* now i am being serious here. this food was fucking taken out of a can and heated. and don't tell me i am being ungrateful. they billed it as a "HOME-COOKED MEAL." why fucking lie about that? especially if then yr going to throw the bible and brimstone at us all after dinner? don't fucking lie about it... to soldiers... in basic who are desperate for some kinda normalcy. please come to our our "formation" at bible church for chow and soul-enlistment. i guess that wouldn't work?!?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:52 AM
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17. How many times can we keep reusing the word unbelievable?
:wtf: :banghead:
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