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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 11:44 AM Original message |
Fannie’s Failure Equals a Failure in Privatization |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. "There is a place for capitalism and competition but it’s not in insurance like FNMA and SS" |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Nice Strawman |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Nice ivory tower |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. So then you simply 'presume' |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. If they did they aren't using the education they gleaned. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I'm terribly, so very terribly, sorry, that you're not "in the mood" |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Look for a fight elsewhere. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The "assholes" are the ones |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. if something works reasonably well for 30 years |
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But.... (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. 6 of one... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I'd argue you must have regulation and enforcement |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I agree with strong regulations, but why privatize in the first place? You are just asking for this |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Rightwing economics is like a religion; you won't get a straight answer |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Some things like affordable competent healthcare |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Here's a hint: our healthcare system is ALREADY private, and is the least efficient in the world. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'm well aware of the deficiencies in our health care |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Financial products? Fannie Mae is insurance. How do you have competition with |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Why shouldn't insurance be a competitive product |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. WOW, where to start. First insurance isn't competitive anymore than gasoline prices. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The denial of claims and cancellations of policies |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. No I'm a realist |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. And yet, a fundamental such as housing percolates though |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. you realize that the insurance in question |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. We (the government) got together in 1938 and said we would pool |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. the crisis in housing isn't because Fannie and Freddie made |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. But why privatize them? |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I haven't gone back through the Congressional Record |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. you don't have to thank me....we should all be civil here |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. When privatized, there is incentive to take risks - which they leaped at - |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I remember what it was like to be regulated |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Well said. nm |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. FEMA wasn't privatized |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. The problem with your ideology is that regulation is a product of a value system |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. The same problems exist without privatization |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. You missed the point of the post. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. oops response posted on wrong post, please delete |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Ummm time to look at the plan again. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. You mean if we ignore it, it won't go away? I bet FDR is spinning in his grave. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. Republicans stand for privatized gains |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Loot and pollute. nm |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. I started a thread asking questions about privatization ... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Apparently not a top issue today. nm |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. a concession that Government oversight in many areas of the economy is NECESSARY |
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