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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:39 PM
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Jonathan Falwell: Falwell's "pro-life" goal close to reality...strict constructionist court coming.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:48 PM by madfloridian
Jonathan Falwell, son of Jerry Falwell, Sr. says the country is close to reaching the goals set by his father...one of them being control of the Supreme Court and thus the striking down of Roe v Wade.

"I can guarantee you that Sen. Obama ... is not going to put judges on our court like Alito and like Roberts."

"I think what Dad would say is that we are sitting at a crossroads in our political landscape -- really for the future, 30 to 40 years in the future," Jonathan Falwell told Baptist Press. "The next president is going to nominate at least two and maybe more Supreme Court justices. When Dad started the Moral Majority back in the late '70s, he had a vision, he had a plan to bring our country to the point where abortion on demand would no longer be legal. We are so close, with President Bush putting Alito and Roberts onto the court, we are one vote away from a court that would be a strict constructionist court (and) not one that tries to legislate from the bench."

Jerry Falwell had disagreements with McCain, Jonathan Falwell said, but would have supported him.

"So, for people -- even conservatives -- to say that Sen. McCain is not the perfect candidates and therefore we're just going to stay home, that's not a wise move and I don't think Dad would support that move," Jonathan Falwell said. "Dad would say, 'It's far better to have somebody who's 90 percent your friend than to have somebody who's 100 percent your enemy.... Sen. McCain has said he's going to put strict constructionist judges on the court, and he went as far as to say like Alito and like Roberts. I can guarantee you that Sen. Obama ... is not going to put judges on our court like Alito and like Roberts."


One son Jerry Falwell, Jr. is now Chancellor of Liberty University. They are already showing their opposition to Obama and their preference for McCain.

Falwell, Jr said that an Obama rally couldn't park in a shopping plaza parking lot because of IRS regulations. Okay for McCain rally.

And then Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. of Liberty University gave a verbal wink wink to the McCain camp.

Parking won't be an issue

A few weeks ago, Barack Obama held a rally in Lynchburg, VA not far from Liberty University. Just down the road from the rally site was a shopping plaza where those attending the rally were expecting to park – unfortunately for them, the lot was owned by Liberty University and they refused to let rally attendees use it, citing IRS regulations.

Joe McCain is scheduled to speak briefly at Friday’s convocation service at 10 a.m. at the Vines Center, said Liberty spokesman Johnnie Moore. McCain then will head to Roanoke for a campaign stop, and return to Lynchburg for a 2 p.m. rally from the campaign’s “Victory Bus” in front of the Vines Center.

...."Of course, Falwell insists that this is totally different:

Parking isn’t the same kind of issue with Friday’s campaign event, Falwell said, because the school has met IRS regulations by extending an offer to the Obama campaign to come to LU.


Catch this part of what Falwell said:

Falwell admitted back during the Obama flap that, had it been McCain seeking to use its parking lot, “It's true we'd be a little more tempted to help.” No kidding.


Found this interesting tidbit about the Obama rally.

Bus fuss: Mel White, the former ghost writer for Jerry Falwell and other right-wing televangelists, recently paid a small town in Virginia for busing supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to a local high school to hear the candidate speak. According to various reports, the town was forced to provide last-minute shuttle services from a local stadium to the high school after Jerry Falwell Jr., son of the late Falwell Sr., refused to allow rally attendees to park in the shopping mall owned by Falwell’s Liberty University. White and his spouse, Gary Nixon, chipped in the $900 to pay back the town for its services.

Bay Windows


We are back where we were before the last election. The right wing extremists in the name of God are in a good position to control the election.

The culture of "babies, guns and Jesus" is taking hold.

This sounds like a regular mom. What a refreshing change from these narcissistic, arrogant billionaires (on both sides of the aisle) who do not have a clue as to what life is like for us - the great unwashed - who make this country run.

...."This week, when I stand in shock in the grocery aisle reeling from the increasing price of groceries and every basic home item, I will be thinking, "You go, girl."

In the words of Rush Limbaugh regarding Mrs. Palin: "babies, guns and Jesus - hot dang!"


That is sadly from a real letter to the editor in a real paper in Central Florida. It is not satire, it is not snark. It was meant sincerely.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:45 PM
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1. would you fix your title - this asshole is NOT pro-life
pro-life would mean these people would have to care about the fetus once it is born. After fetus turns to human form, these people don't give a shit.

Anti-choice, anti-abortion, anti-life are all good terms to be used. Pro-life is their way to sugar-coat their intolerance and ignorance.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:50 PM
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5. Good point...I put quote marks around pro-life.
How did these extremists get the power they have? :eyes:

Oh, wait...could it be that the Bush family and now McCain are manipulating and using them to win?

Inflating their sense of importance.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:46 PM
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2. I smelled a dead skunk on the side of the road today...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:46 PM by hlthe2b
and immediately thought of Jerry Falwell... I wonder why that would be.... :evilgrin:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:49 PM
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4. Falwell is noted in this graphic....
Dobson works, too, but Falwell resonates with many more people...they know what he *cough* stood for.




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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:49 PM
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3. In our state, we will vote to keep abortion legal in the event of R v W being overturned
and we expect out of state agitators to please respect that and take their anti-choice crap back to Alabama where it belongs.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:46 PM
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17. How in the world did we let them make wedge issues so powerful?
It happened before we realized it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:51 PM
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6. Oh fuck that asshole spawned?!?!?!?!
We must destroy the demon seed!!!!

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:53 PM
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7. Falwell is pro-dead now.
Pretty much like he was when he was alive.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:56 PM
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8. If that fool is going to follow in is father's footsteps
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:56 PM by Solly Mack
then might I encourage him to run - not walk - to the grave.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:29 PM
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10. That stuff doesn't go over well here, my friend.
Welcome to DU...enjoy your stay.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:37 PM
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11. And I don't see a profile for you.
I always check profiles.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:03 PM
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12. Who's gonna feed these babies....
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 08:04 PM by fudge stripe cookays
you arrogant, sanctimonious fuck? And pay their medical bills when there is no medicare left? And send them to college when it is $40,000 a credit hour in a few years? Or explain to them why there is no food left because of the droughts and famine caused by climate change your party refused to acknowledge?

You and your ilk want abstinence taught in the schools, you want The Pill not to be given to women (abortion, my ass), no emergency contraception to be given in the case of rapes...so uneducated women have no chance at all, and women whose birth control fails have no options. Forget education, forget goals, forget any ideas we had about own lives. While the asshole who got us into that condition walks away with no consequences.

So we are just baby factories to you. And THAT is why your ilk need to be sent back to the 18th century. And why I will fight your bullshit with every breath in my body. Just because your precious Sarah wants a Downs syndrome baby doesn't mean the rest of us do.

Asshole.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:00 AM
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19. Agreed...
Looks like he's gone.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:08 PM
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13. G-d is the biggest abortionist of all.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 08:23 PM by musette_sf
file your gripe with G-d, and leave my uterus and my Constitutional right to privacy alone.

on edit: G-d also sez "Pizza is mm-mm-good".
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:16 PM
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14. Think of who really has the most to fear from a total ban on abortion..
Is it those of us who make sure their children are properly educated about sex and how to avoid unwanted pregnancy?

Or is it those whose children know nothing of sex beyond what bad info they have gotten from their peers and are completely ignorant of how to avoid unwanted pregnancies?

Anti choice people have raised hypocrisy to a high art, they believe in making abortion illegal unless and until they or someone they care about need an abortion.

The ones who will be screaming the loudest once the anti-choicers get their way will be some of those very same anti-choicers.



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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:35 PM
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15. Falwell is pro-FETUS, not pro-life. Also, Gerry supported Jim Crow laws.
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Liberal Lassie Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:20 PM
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21. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
Exactly. Exactly, again and again. I am Christian and don't like abortion but I had one earlier in my life when I was desperate. There I said it.

I grieve for all of the Iraqi fetus' that have been slaughtered in their mother's wombs and it's a damn shame we can't count them. I count them as aborted babies in the cruelest way possible. Peacefully growing one moment and the next moment blown to oblivion for a tablespoon of oil. God is not in this.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:39 PM
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16. on a related story Jerry Falwell is still being sodomized in Hell
while his rotting maggot infested fatty corpse continues to fester the earth with it's stench
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:50 PM
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18. French news service covers Jonathan's support of McCain. Video from France 24
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2687

I am sure we scare them to death over there with all this religious extremism.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:25 AM
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20. Note in the video...the French TV called McCain's pick early on.
That it had to be someone to cater to Falwell's base.


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2687
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:20 AM
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22. "Pro-Life" as in.............?
Strict vegetarian, against the death penalty and for universal health coverage?

Otherwise, don't come at me with this "pro-life" label, I'm not buying. If all you
are is anti-abortion, then come out and say so.
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