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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:13 PM
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Steve LeBlanc - Galveston City Manager - "40% of residents still on island"...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:14 PM
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1. Not for long.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:15 PM
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2. well.. the population will be significantly lower tomorrow
can't force people to not be stupid
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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3. Listening to the live feed, lots of people say they aren't leaving because they left durning Rita
and were stuck in their cars for hours on end and did not want to go through that again. Good job Gov Goodhair! Heckuvajob in fact! :silly:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:50 PM
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39. That was the direct result of evcuating areas that did not need evacuating.
There are plenty of areas in Houston proper that are high enough to escape flooding, even this kind of flooding. They jumped the gun in Rita and made all those people leave (or they chose to, I am not sure which). They should have evacuated Galveston Island first and it should have been mandatory. They should have dragged those people out if need be and they should have done it starting on Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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4. How many residents live there?
40% seems awfully high. They are warning that nobody in Galveston in one- or two-story house will survive Ike.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:18 PM
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11. As of the 2005 U.S. Census estimate, the city had a total population of 57,466....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston,_Texas
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:23 PM
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21. Oh boy, over 20,000 stayed in Galveston???
How many of those will parish? I can't believe anyone would just stay to "ride it out"
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:32 PM
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26. And they have a "Shelter of last resort" that holds 2000...
My oh my...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:43 PM
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31. About 60k I think. I lived there in '97 on the west end of the island just past Jamaica Beach in a
subdivision. I could see the water from my living room. Nothing between the water and that subdivision. Lots of high end homes right on the beach across the street. Mostly vacation homes. Those homes will take a beating, for sure.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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5. I'm watching here:
http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:17 PM
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9. fantastic link
thank you
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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6. It's too late now...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:16 PM
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7. Galveston, oh Galveston!
Why don't you leave your island, you fools? Hard to believe this--they HAD to see this coming. WTF?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:18 PM
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10. There's a line in that song
"I am so afraid of dying"

Apparently now.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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18. Yep--I just don't get it. They have to know how vulnerable they are.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:24 PM
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24. I walked down to the beach during Hanna
Just to see what it was like. With 40 per mile hour winds, the sand was burning my skin and I had to shield my face from the rain. That was all I needed to know that if we ever were int he path of an actual hurricane, I'd have my ass the hell out of town.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:25 PM
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25. What would being afraid of getting killed in Vietnam have to do with this?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:32 PM
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27. I thought the song was about world war I
Based on the line, canon's splashing, and also on the cover of the album, it looks like he's wearing a world war I uniform.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:36 PM
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29. Sorry, I was wrong, it was written with the Spanish-American war in mind.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:17 PM
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8. Island? What island?....Did somebody see what happened to the island?
How many dead THIS time?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:18 PM
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12. Weren't they the site of the worst hurricane death toll in American history?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:35 PM
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37. Yes 8000 in 1900.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:20 PM
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13. I'm watching the local news here and they are showing aerial video of Galveston.
Certain areas are almost under water. Yikes!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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16. 17 ft. wall -- Expecting 19 - 22 ft storm surge --- 30 ft waves....
It's going to be REAL bad... :cry:
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:21 PM
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14. Darwin in action.... WTF? 40%? Where was the mandatory evac?
I just don't understand how a BARRIER ISLAND wouldn't be evacuated.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:33 PM
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28. Like NO, Galveston has a very high population of poor minorities
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 03:34 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
Many of which do not have cars.

I used to live there, and am really concerned about how many people I knew are about to die while others shout "darwinism" about their demise without knowing a thing about that community.

Oh....and there is really only one bridge out of town.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:39 PM
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30. Look, I'm not blaming those people, I'm blaming that city, that county, and the state of texas....
They've had a WHOLE WEEK to get out. It seems like the State of Texas let the Rita blunder get to them. In Florida we have LESS ROADS to get out on, but there's never a problem. They shut down any incoming traffic and turn the inbound lanes outbound.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:22 PM
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36. Earlier I saw a heartbreaking photo in a slideshow of an
older black man at the home of an 86 yr. old woman. He looked distressed and I wondered if there were no services available to evacuate them. Thanks for that bit of info.

I hope that your friends will be okay, but from what I've seen on the weather channel since 8 this morning, it's looking grim. I'll be lighting a candle soon and hoping for the best for those who are in the way of this monster, Ike.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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15. Cheap real estate next week!! Darwin rules.....Not just a good idea, it's the law...
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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17. This is bad..
the water level's practically up to the top of the seawall and waves are crashing over. Bolivar island to the NE is flooded; they pulled 72 people off of it who thought they still have time to leave.

And, it's not raining yet....
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:22 PM
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19. If it is 40%, it would be nearly 23,000 people.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:23 PM
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22. Men, woman and children....
:cry:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:23 PM
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20. For what it's worth, FOX just reported 20% left on island
Whichever is true, we are talking 10's of thousands of people
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:24 PM
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23. This is just horrible.
A lot of people are going to die in the next 24 hrs, I'm afraid.

So sad.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:43 PM
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32. Just don't get it why someone would stay?
As early as last night, when there was still a chance to get in the car and drive away, CNN and the Weather Channel were reporting that the National Weather Service said anyone who stayed would "face certain death," to which all of the reportes and the anchors kept repeating that they had NEVER heard such a dire warning before.

There must be people that DUers know that are staying.

I'm not judging, I'm very intellectually curious why someone would stay? Pride? Looting? Distrust of government?

Just don't get it???
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:46 PM
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33. denial
crippling denial
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:48 PM
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34. What I'm hearing is that the Rita traffic jams discouraged a lot of people....
12 hour traffic jams....
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:04 PM
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35. I guess we'll see if FEMA has improved in the past 3 years
Of course, FEMA's response will be directly proportional to how white the affected people are. :eyes:
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:35 PM
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38. A large building is now on fire on Galveston;
it's a boat repair/storage facility which includes a fuel station. Fire fighters are holding off approaching it because of the potential for explosions.
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