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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:46 PM
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"Stock up on food, water and ammo" (clarification)
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 04:49 PM by timeforarevolution
Rep. Culberson (Texas) on MSNBC now, talking about aftermath of Ike, and how "Texans are self-reliant" and are a "model for the rest of the nation."

Not judgment there from me. It was the next line that got my attention as I was perusing DU.

He also said, "Texans follow the rules. For an event like this, be prepared for substantial period of time without power to stock up on food, water and ammo."

Okay, maybe it's not as bad as my first and second impression? My third impression was that it's more of a "Texas thang."

???

:think:







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io-solip Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:47 PM
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1. Well, the stock up advice sounds exactly right!
:D
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:48 PM
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2. Fat lot of good ammo will do me, with no gun.
Then again, maybe I can use it to barter with in the post-apocalypse.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:58 PM
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6. Ammo is very expensive.
You can buy all the guns you want the price of ammunition reflects increases in gasoline. Guess everyone is on their own now that the National Guard is in Iraq.

Those who think in terms of ammo already have their ammo.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:51 PM
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3. Heere ya go
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:53 PM
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4. If Texans Follow the Rules, What Do They Need the Ammo For?
:eyes:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:03 PM
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8. to take care of animals that might get into your house because of
flooding. I'm thinking mainly of snakes, especially poisonous ones. Also it would be a way to deal with other wildlife that might appear to be rabid, like squirrels or raccoons.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:07 PM
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10. Zachery.
A 410 is useful for the snakes, but overkill. I knew a guy who had a .45 revolver modified to hold custom small shot rounds. They were perfect for killing the odd snake after a flood. Easier to carry and aim than a shotgun when you suddenly find a water moccasin swimming up to the nice dry tree trunk that just happens to be your leg.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:09 PM
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12. Thank you and ayeshahaqqiqa for educating me about this...
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 05:10 PM by timeforarevolution
I wouldn't have thought of the whole critter thing, but that makes soooooo much sense.

And I wouldn't have thought of it because I've never been in a flood, thank goodness. But, I'm terrified of snakes, so if I were in that situation, it's the first thing I'd think of and no doubt would wish I had a revolver.


:)


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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:21 PM
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17. A stick is better for dealing with snakes
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 05:22 PM by kristopher
The reptile kind that is. Guns are for dealing with the human variety. Like it or not, this country operates on a dog-eat-dog philosophy that has been getting worse ever since Ronnie Raygun and his cultural revolution. If I were in Japan, I wouldn't worry about anarchy after a disaster, but here I worry. We have a system that imposes order from above, when that threat is removed there is little existing grass-roots level organization to fall back on so looting and violence are real threats, not imagined ones.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:16 PM
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16. I'd Think a Snake Would be a Difficult Target for a Gun
If you don't hit the head, would a bullet even do much damage to a snake?

Wouldn't a long cutting implement like a machete, sword, or scythe be more effective?
Also avoids putting bullet holes in your home.

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:58 PM
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5. That is the motto in my house.
:)
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:01 PM
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7. Ever been in a flood situation?
Sometimes critters come around that you really don't want around. Frankly, I'd rather my husband shoot a water moccasin than to try and choke it to death.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:04 PM
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9. Good point. LOL
I'm not an anti-gun person (rabid anti-assault weapon person, yeah), but that statement really threw me.

Just one of those things....no biggie, so it seems.

I hear you. :)




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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:11 PM
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14. wouldn't it be hard to shoot a snake floating in water? Seems like it'd just swish away.
I'm afraid that the idea of a snake floating around me, is ALL the more reason to evacuate when they tell you. I can't even imagine snakes floating around me...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:08 PM
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11. He said "Texans have can-do attitudes" - not Americans, mind you.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:12 PM
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15. It very much came across to me as a "bootstrap" lesson kind...
of discussion (well, there was no discussion, he was talking and the anchor was listening).

So I wasn't surprised when I looked up and saw an "R" next to his name.

The ammo thing really threw me, in conjunction with the bootstrap vibe, but others here have enlightened me.


:)


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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:10 PM
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13. People who stayed behind should be forced to sign a release of liability...
.. that way, crews can be free to rescue the folks that were accidentally stuck there, or were hurt trying to flee. And if the rescue crews do have to get their stubborn asses out of trouble, they need to be billed for that. And if a rescuer dies while trying to save someone who refused to leave their BELONGINGS, then they should be charged with manslaughter.

Frankly, the people I read about that stayed behind did so to protect their belongings... The one woman that stayed behind with a few shotguns, with "full permission from neighbors to shoot anyone that goes into their house", said she stayed because she didn't want to get looted.
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:26 PM
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18. The Mormons have been doing this for a looooong time. Not sure about the guns.
http://www.thefoodguys.com/index.shtml

Food Storage
For many years, Church leaders have counseled members to prepare to care for themselves and their families in times of need. This includes, to the extent that local laws and personal circumstances allow, storing and saving a one-year supply of food.
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&index=6&sourceId=25fa2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____

Recently, Elder L. Tom Perry of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles taught:
Acquire and store a reserve of food and supplies that will sustain life. . . . As long as I can remember, we have been taught to prepare for the future and to obtain a year's supply of necessities. I would guess that the years of plenty have almost universally caused us to set aside this counsel. I believe the time to disregard this counsel is over. With events in the world today, it must be considered with all seriousness" ("If Ye Are Prepared Ye Shall Not Fear," Ensign, Nov. 1995, 36).

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&index=6&sourceId=25fa2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____

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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:01 PM
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19. Perfect gun for killing critters and self-defense
Andy, I wouldn't want a snake to get near enough to me that I'd have to use a scythe or machete. Snakes are faster than you know and I'm very scared of them. People who go hiking in the wild, camping also need self-defense against two-legged varmints, especially us women.

Also if one does stay behind snakes might not the only threat.

The Taurus Judge is a versatile pistol which takes both shotgun shells and bullets.

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-Judge.htm
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