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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:04 PM
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***BIOLOGICAL WMD LAB IN GALVESTON***
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:31 PM by cui bono
Just learned about this from a friend on a gaming site who is a Houston resident. He posted the bio lab info but also mentioned many bodies washing up on shore...

He posted:

This is NOT good my friends. I talked to a coworker and she told me a friend of hers talked to a doctor from the area. Doctor told her that there is a media black out and that bodies are washing onshore that could surpass Katrina. I think I'm going to be sick. There's more. Seems the black out is not just for the bodies, but also because there was some kind of Bio Lab there. See the link.
http://blessingsblessings.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/17/1875291-galveston-coverup-you-decide


I'm going home...I'm feeling ill right about now.
I'm hearing about entire families getting wiped out.

(emphasis added)


From bio lab link (the whole article is worth a read):

Amidst the tragedy arises a new concern.

We now know of a facility euphemistically called the "University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston" (UTMB), whose website proclaims, "An academic health center dedicated to educating science professionals and researchers....solving biomedical puzzles through research...", that contains a Level-IV Bio Lab, one of only five in the United States. Level 4 is the highest bio-hazard level, and the most dangerous. Even the prestigious National Research Council criticized a federal government analysis that concluded that these labs pose no health threat to heavily populated communities, like Boston's South End and Galveston. One cannot but wonder what sort of demented individual or group would advocate such a facility anywhere near a heavily populated area, much less one on a barrier island in a flood plane and hurricane-prone region.

A Level 4 Bio-hazard Lab routinely handles agents comprising biological weapons of mass destruction. The NRC report states the U.S. government "... failed to adequately consider the dangers of working with the world's deadliest germs, including Ebola and plague, in the middle of a congested urban neighborhood." Such a facility is in an area of residential structures that suffered water seven feet deep in the first floor, not to mention the high winds and towering waves. The official response to inquiry is that only "minor" damage was sustained, but the entire complex has been taken over by the military, and no reporters have been allowed near the labs.

To put this in perspective, consider the lab announcement from the University website:

"The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston is the site of the $167 million facility. Of the total 83,000-square-foot building, 12,362 square feet will be devoted to biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) research.

BSL-4 space is secure for work with "dangerous and exotic agents that pose a high individual risk of aerosol-transmitted laboratory infections and life-threatening disease," according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Among BSL-4 safeguards are special air seals and air ducts to and from the lab, individual air supplies for researchers, required personal protection suits for workers, and numerous levels of security for entry. Such labs study diseases including anthrax, Ebola, SARS, and others."

http://blessingsblessings.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/17/1875291-galveston-coverup-you-decide



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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:06 PM
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1. Did He Confirm 900 bodies


......:nuke:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:09 PM
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3. That's all he posted. He doesn't have power, just a generator so he's not online long.
I'm sure he will update me though. I'll pass on what I hear.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:07 PM
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2. Why did they locate it in a place likely to get hit by hurricanes?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:13 PM
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4. For just such an occasion?
:shrug:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:19 PM
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6. I don't know what year it was built, but if it was in the last 7 years then I think you have your
answer.

"the prestigious National Research Council criticized a federal government analysis that concluded that these labs pose no health threat to heavily populated communities, like Boston's South End and Galveston. One cannot but wonder what sort of demented individual or group would advocate such a facility anywhere near a heavily populated area, much less one on a barrier island in a flood plane and hurricane-prone region."

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:41 PM
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18. Ft Dietrick is in a heavily populated area.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:42 PM by undergroundpanther
Fort Detrick is located in Frederick, Maryland, in the heart of Frederick County, the third fastest growing county in Maryland. Fort Detrick is the center of the biomedical technology growth that has occurred in the county. Fort Detrick is located approximately one hours drive from Washington D.C. metro area and Baltimore, Maryland, easily accessible by major interstate highways.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/fort-detrick.htm
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The psychopath pigs running this government do not like us plebeians,they however do love our cheap labor making them rich, and abusing us because they think they can..They put bio-weapons labs where people are because the public can become unwitting test subjects.


http://www.americasveterans.org/news/082503b.html



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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:03 PM
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25. Detrick has been here a long time.
That being said, the lab is being expanded and Ft Ritchie (~30 miles away) was closed. Ft Ritchie is in a much less populated area and would make a good site for such a lab.

-Hoot
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:09 PM
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35. Do you really want to transfer Ebola and such that far?
Thats the problem. Moving this material is very dangerous. Its best to keep it close
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:10 PM
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42. Close to what, people? Move them to get them out of a population center?
Hell yes! There have been problems at Detrick in the past. It sits on the edge of Frederick surrounded by developments. It was farmland before, Frederick has grown around the base. Moving the lab about 30 miles up the road into a valley which would help containment if the unthinkable should occur and it's near Camp David which yields the bonus of them being really careful because the Prez is near.

-Hoot
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:13 PM
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36. It wasn't heavily populated when it was built.
Tell me, how do you feel about trucks shipping HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS AND DEADLY DISEASES down the highway, hmm? Thats what they'd have to do to move it out of the city. The city grew up around Detrick,not vice versa
These labs do NECESSARY research on horrid diseases..For instance..and Ebola vaccine is being tested right now..a result of Detrick's research..and as Ebola (although not a concern in this country) is a horrible way to die.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:21 PM
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7. Bringing Home the Bacon--But Cooking the Goose, Instead
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:16 PM
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5. Warning - this thread is about to get "interesting"
:popcorn:
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:26 PM
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11. If that popcorn's unsalted, could I please have some?
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:27 PM
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12. Sure, there's plenty to go around!
:hi:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:22 PM
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8. "told me a friend of hers talked to a doctor from the area." Waiting for 1st person, not 3rd
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:23 PM by uppityperson
They would be really smart to send a bunch of newpeople over in a helicopter to look, and video/photo the area AND release it to the public. Not doing so feeds into the fear since over the last 8 yrs we have learned to not believe what is said.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:27 PM
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13. We've learned to not believe what is said by he corp media and the govt.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:35 PM by cui bono
That's a whole lot different than from someone you "know" in the area. That being said I understand you wanting first person confirmation.

How do you propose to have a helicopter go fly over the area if there's a federal no fly order out? I would love to have this confirmed. (not wanting to hear about thousands of bodies, just wanting to hear the truth.)

And I don't understand your feeding the fear comment.

But anyway, that's why that is an "add-on" to the "headline" of this thread. The Level 4 Bio-Hazard lab. I bolded the bio lab part now to emphasize it as well.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:34 PM
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23. The "fear" part is not knowing wtf is going on. Fearing what MAY be happening
vs knowing, seeing, truthful evidence. Distrust leads to fear (are they covering up something really bad) that leads to more rumors, etc etc etc.

The no-fly order sucks. I can see not wanting to get in the way of those rescuing survivors, but the no-fly order should be taken off, media allowed in, etc.

Is this the bio-lab I've read about that was built but not opened? It seems from what is written that it is another. I am tired and getting confused over what is where. Thanks.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:31 PM
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15. Yes, it's too bad Goodman's team is involved in litigation.
They'd be the only ones with enough backing to get there to shoot, but if they were arrested again... I shudder to think of the consequences.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:35 PM
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17. the media of the 1970s no longer exists
except in Hollywood, where they perversely portray the media as ruining things for their tv heroes-go figure...idiots. It greatly helps people who want to shut down reporting, Hollywood ain't what it used to be.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:23 PM
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9. Oh SUPER. So are we all going to die from an experimental bacteria?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:33 PM
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16. When truth and sci-fi collide:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:15 PM
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21. They were playing with ebola
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:24 PM
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10. This could be major... I don't know what else to say until I start digging. n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:29 PM
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14. I remember hearing a warning to the media
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:33 PM by undergroundpanther
to not take pictures of certain things after the hurricane.like dead bodies.BEFORE Ike even arrived!!

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/15/hurricane-ike-media/

Wonder why the CYA?! The Bio weapons lab of Course!!Can't let the public SEE the ruins of a bioweapons lab,oh no,people might not TRUST the military or Govt.after seeing what they do behind closed doors!

Psychopathic rich republican bully boys love to support doing nasty shitty things in secret,designed to kill maim and sicken other people. But the bullies don't ever stick their own hands in the traps they get off on seeing others stumble upon,they love that secrecy..because they are cowardly bully psychopaths .And they can't let non-psychopath people SEE the results of shit the psychopath right wing fund creating, in bio-labs that they claim no other countries on Earth should have access to because the psychopath bullies running this country wanna dominate the world.Can't have any uppity countries making bio- or nuclear weapons to RIVAL the American wealthy psychopath's hegemony.. Can't let non-psychopath people know who deliberately creates such biological horrors just to intimidate the world with and how it is just fucking sick,evil and really ,really stupid.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:43 PM
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29. Wasn't there a directive that came out last summer
that would prevent people from entering a disaster area? I remember posters on DU saying it would be a way to keep volunteers away, and some saying it would be a way to set off a false flag attack without any prying eyes. Does anyone remember this?
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:46 PM
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19. The University of Texas has some odd biowarfare connections
There have been a variety of military-sponsored programs at the University of Texas at Houston that are connected with emergency responses to chemical and biological weapons. I don't know how they relate to the "University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston," but they do add to the suggestion that something fishy is going on.
http://www.tmc.edu/tmcnews/06_01_00/page_04.html

June 1, 2000

DREAMS is a U.S. Army-sponsored program at The University of Texas-Houston Health Science Center, Texas A&M University, Texas Heart Institute and Memorial Hermann Hospital that focuses on improving emergency care. The advanced telemedicine project is designed to improve and speed emergency diagnosis and treatment for injured patients, especially in military battlefield and civilian disaster settings. The goal of the project is to improve detection, diagnosis, decontamination and treatment for chemical and biological warfare agents, and to develop new diagnostic methods and therapies for shock and injuries.

The DREAMS project was also the basis for a civilian group called "Defense of Houston," which was formed five days after 9/11 and predicted a forthcoming anthrax attack (!). This description is from a pdf which was formerly at the Department of Health and Human Services website at http://phs.os.dhhs.gov/ophs/BestPractice/defenseofhouston.PDF but now seems to be gone:
Prompted by the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, Defense of Houston was formed on September 16 as an ad hoc, self-appointed, but broadly representative committee of citizens who hope to optimize the city’s preparation for disasters in general, and terrorism in particular. The group includes leaders of most industries, civic groups, government agencies, experts on natural disasters, terrorism, intelligence, diplomacy, biological and chemical threats, telecommunications, civil liberties, and emergency medical response. Predicting that the next problem would be an anthrax attack, the committee developed a website called www.defenseofhouston.org by September 18 to help the community prepare.

The Defense of Houston project builds on Disaster Relief and Emergency Medical Services (DREAMS) project, funded by the U.S. Army with expenditures of $18 million to date and led by the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, Texas A&M University, Texas Health Institute, and Memorial Hermann Hospital. DREAMS tests the latest technologies for emergency care and seeks to improve emergency health response, whether in the military or in civilian life. This project provided funding for the website. That project has spurred the growth of the rest of the organization.

In 2002, DREAMS mutated into something called T5, whose mission was to perform "terrorism response research" and which was associated with UT-Houston's new Center for Biosecurity and Disaster Preparedness.
http://www.tmc.edu/tmcnews/11_15_02/page_10.html

November 15, 2002

The Department of Defense’s recently approved 2003 fiscal budget includes $11 million in federal funds for terrorism response research at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. . . .

“The goal of T5 is to identify the best ways of protecting Houston, or any other city, from the morbidity, mortality, and costs of terrorism and other disasters,” said S. Ward Casscells, M.D., vice president for biotechnology at UT-Houston. . . .

UT-Houston’s School of Public Health also has established the new Center for Biosecurity and Disaster Preparedness, which will be led by bioterrorism expert Scott R. Lillibridge, M.D. . . .

In conjunction with T5, the center will begin research programs in security, preparedness, public policy, and disaster response. It will also coordinate readiness and response drills (table top, virtual, and field) and integration with counterterrorism programs in Texas and nationwide.

And more recently, that was followed by another Pentagon program called TexSHIELD:
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2006/01/16/daily1.html

Monday, January 16, 2006

The U.S. Department of Defense has earmarked $5.7 million to help fund a new pandemic influenza preparedness and response program based at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. . . .

"TexSHIELD will help fill the critical need in this country to develop an educational, training, and technical capacity that facilitates the global involvement of American doctors, nurses and other allied health professionals in our response to global emergencies such as the recent tsunami, flu epidemics, and the possibility of bioterrorism," says Dr. S. Ward Casscells, vice president for biotechnology at the UT Health Science Center and director of TexSHIELD. "The tenets of military medicine, international disaster relief, and the new technologies of military planning can be assisted by civilian medical teams dedicated to this purpose."

The Center for Biosecurity and Public Health Preparedness at The University of Texas School of Public Health at Houston, directed by Dr. Scott R. Lillibridge, will provide the training and planning component of TexSHIELD.


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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:57 PM
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20. There is a bio lab in Galveston...
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 08:12 PM by undergroundpanther
http://www.utwatch.org/archives/backyardbioweapons.html
Check this out..
http://news.smashits.com/291075/Scientists-uncover-chink-in-Ebola-cell-invasion-strategy.htm
Bioweapon lab in Houston..too
http://www.sunshine-project.org/publications/pr/pr180907.html
Bodies...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/091708dntexikelab.1ac7d44.html
On Galveston Island, authorities are trying to locate and evacuate some 10,000 people who ignored the dire warnings to flee the hurricane or “face certain death.”
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/crews-search-for-ike-victims/

900people were rescued from rooftops during Ike,and dead fish caught in fences.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26727471/
so 900 bodies washing ashore it is possible.
Interesting post here It's Ron Paul but it seems to be thinking clearly on this..
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/tinderbox/86488-government-forced-media-blackout-fatalities-ike.html
More
http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6804
http://capitolannex.com/2008/09/17/ikes-death-toll-rises-how-do-you-reconcile-official-word-with-eyewitness-body-counts/
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Bolivar_Peninsula_survivors_get_out_any_way_they_can.html
http://www.texaskayakfisherman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1040174
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/09/379669.shtml

900 bodies, possible bioweapon contamination with a graphically horrid disease..Looks entirely plausible to me and add the media blackout and it looks like military is doing CYA to me..
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:27 PM
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22. All I know is that I'm in Dallas and I, and several neighbors, are looking like 28 days after
victims, and it's only been 5 days.


Bloody keyboard!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:48 PM
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24. Anthrax! WTF!? What is it with the GOP and anthrax? n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:16 PM
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26. Must see video ABC13-- VIDEO: Wayne Dolcefino confronts Gov. Perry over access.
ABC13 confirming a couple days ago that they have been denied access to West Galveston/Bolivar.

He is angry!

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=6391294
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:20 PM
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37. Republican politicizing a national disaster by hiding it in a closet?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:24 PM
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27. "I talked to a coworker and she told me a friend of hers talked to a doctor from the area."
Color me completely unimpressed and unmoved.

Incredible how none of these secondary or tertiary sources have a camera, even though they come on cell phones
and can fit in a pocket with room to spare.

Uncorroborated second-party information goes by a more colloquial name: BULLSHIT.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:34 PM
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30. Well, well, well... seems the media has more curiosity than you do.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4027888

Oh, and cell phone service has been blocked too. I believe that was stated in the link I provided, perhaps you missed that part when you "read" it.

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:33 PM
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28. No, No, No, No
man don't do this, it makes us look stupid. I worked there for 13 years. That lab was decontaminated and all the material was properly secured. Believe me, I know. I once worked in the department there that did the securing.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:38 PM
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31. link?
That's not mentioned in the story, though I suppose it could be true. But what reason is there for me to take your word for it? I have no idea who you are. (that's not meant to be a personal jab, but this is a public internet message board you know)

However, what is definitely true is there is a media blackout. And I'm quite certain there is a damn good reason that BushCo has ordered it and I'm not going to just accept what the republicans in charge tell me.

It does not make anyone look stupid to try to find out the truth. Stupid in this day and age is accepting what BushCo says without questioning it. As bad as our media is to us they are not even being allowed to get any info at this point. That should tell you something right there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4027888

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:43 PM
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34. There are conflicting stories about the lab. FEMA says
the specimens were destroyed, the lab folks say they were secured.

Also, fyi, cell service is coming back on line on Galveston. That's something, anyway.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:01 PM
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41. link?
I worked there for 13 years, I use my real name. The department responsible is called Biological Health and Safety, the Director is Bruce Schoenbucher. Look him up, give him a call.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:42 PM
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33. I'm just wondering...Do you think it can withstand any sort of hurricane?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 02:43 PM by readmoreoften
I'm also wondering if the evacuations may be due to the facility having some sort of general post-hurricane general safety protocol.

(*Note all: the above statement is NOT a speculation of doom, just a question about the facility's procedures.)
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:59 PM
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40. yes
all of the biological and radioactive material is stored in a concrete block bunker-like structure. It is also drummed up in waterproof containers that are clearly labeled. In the rare event one got away it will float and ALL responders on the island know how to handle it.

Days before the hurricane became a clear threat all the labs were cleaned and decontaminated, absolutely no threat was left behind.
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Citizen_Penn Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:25 PM
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38. I agree with you, there's no conspiracy
I've seen the aerial photographs of the island - there are not 900 bodies hidden.

It's not safe there because it's covered with debris, water, etc.


And grocery stores are now open on the island for those who remained.

I'd be very surprised if there's any truth to this rumor.

Yes, that lab was there - now, does that mean I'm breathing the plague here in Houston?

Isn't Ike sufficient enough damage - must I invent more?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:41 PM
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32. Here's an article from Monday:
Monday, September 15, 2008
Ike Coverage: Galveston biolab researching killer viruses reportedly secured before hurricane hit
The Galveston area of Texas that took a direct hit from Hurricane Ike is home to a top-level biodefense laboratory that studies highly contagious and deadly diseases including bird flu, but lab officials are assuring the public that the pathogens were secured before the storm made landfall.

The Robert E. Shope Laboratory is located in the Keiller Building on the sprawling University of Texas Medical Branch campus in Galveston. The basement of the Keiller Building flooded during the storm, but UTMB reports there was no loss of biocontainment or biosecurity. All labs were decontaminated and secured prior to the storm, with all infectious agents stored in proper containers, according to UTMB.

However, UTMB's statement contradicts claims by state and federal officials that the lab's pathogens were destroyed before Ike hit. For example, Texas Gov. Rick Perry's spokesperson told CNN that the lab's pathogens were purposely destroyed before the staff evacuated the facility. Officials with the Department of Homeland Security also told the network dangerous materials were destroyed.

CNN reported on questions about the pathogen destruction claims raised by an unnamed former UTMB student who worked at the lab. She said she would be surprised if all of the pathogens had been destroyed, since some of them are rare and very valuable -- though she did note that the lab was designed to withstand hurricanes:

http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/09/ike-coverage-galveston-biolab.asp
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:50 PM
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46. So...... UTMB has one story. State and fed officials put out a different one.
--The pathogens were secured and stored.

--They were purposefully destroyed.

And we're not supposed to be skeptical of the information we're getting?
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TxBlue Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:28 PM
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39. K&R
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deidara Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:17 PM
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43. Just heard from a friend...
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 07:18 PM by deidara
...of my hairdresser's 2nd cousin's aunt.

This is what the survivors look like now:

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:32 PM
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44. Who knows whether they "locked it down" tight enought or not...but they don't want folks on that
Island...and while I understand it's still dangerous from debris...it's getting to be a long time they are awaiting..unless there's some "other reason." :eyes:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:34 PM
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45. It Seems as If Our Government is Run by END TIMERS
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