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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:20 PM
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Um. WOW! We really are going to CRASH!!!!!
The "world" invested in US.

The US privates are dead and the US is drowning and suffocating the taxpayer (no taxes regiment).

The "world" is reacting.

The US is fucked.

I'm actually happy to be, "without"!
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tazkcmo Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:21 PM
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1. I'm used to it.
Always nice to get new neighbors.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:32 PM
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15. I always did "clean up" good. *LOL*
I also retained my sense of humanity in spite of over-education.
:shrug:

It's outrageous that the most greedy maggots have been allowed to SUCK THE LIFE out of our nation.

But, those vampires were given FREE REIGN!!!

Those predators, EACH AND EVERY ONE, should be sucked DRY of every oppressive advantage they STOLE from every individual. Those predators should live life in a small, well-contained cell.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:22 PM
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2. Bush has completely fucked this planet.
I don't think he can even hide in Paraguay now.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:24 PM
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5. I won't be sanguine until he and the cabal are treated like Mussolini in 1945.
It does not appear that "we the people" have the courage and honesty to assert our sovereignty and prosecute the war criminals who have MURDERED people in our name.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:28 PM
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10. You picture him hanging upside down, too?
I always have.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:33 PM
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16. Yeah ... and Cheney. ESPECIALLY Cheney.
Smirk humanely belongs in padded cell in solitary confinement for the rest of his miserable life. Holding the "humane" line is harder for me when it comes to Cheney. Cheney is enough to convince me that there is real "evil" walking the earth,
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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:23 PM
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3. Uhhh.....I'll suffer to get Obama in office, but let's get it fixed
I like being #1, but I haven't been proud of America for a long time now.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:24 PM
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4. I'm Used to being poor
and have always lived with the poor.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:25 PM
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6. We're a global economy.
We don't need politcians stroking us. What's the next great economy we are going to invent? (Hint: decentralized, inefficient energy). (inefficient = labor intensive).
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:30 PM
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13. Ultimately, it may well come to that with the oil running out.
It's one thing to move your body from home to work, but it takes a whole lot more energy to move products such as consumer goods and food stuffs from the fields and factories to the local store shelves.

If the energy crunch is severe, it will represent a return of locally grown, locally owned food and locally made manufactured goods. There was a time when the United States grew and produced all it needed, but those days are over. Family farms have been replaced by agricorporations, and the factories that once produced America's products have been hollowed out and left to rust away, the machines sent out of country long ago to be operated by third world workers with few labor rights and weak environmental protections. This was done in the name of greater profits.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:37 PM
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18. Very true
It's a brave, new world. We no longer make the rules. If we know this, we need to decide how we will act in this new world order. That seems to me, IMHO, to be decentralized energy.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:25 PM
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7. For poor people, this simply represents more suffering ahead. nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:25 PM
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8. I was poor until I inherited two years ago
and I still know how to do it.

I don't mind being unemployed because I'm still too blind to manage, anyway.

Maybe the health insurance companies will be so starved for income that they'll cover me after 20 years of refusing to.

I just want to see the smug GOPs on the steep end of the learning curve. I want to see the smug wiped off their piggy faces and replaced with panic until they figure it out.
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Aqaba Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:27 PM
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9. Here's a Chinese newspaper on whats going on
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSPEK4365020080917?sp=true">China paper urges new currency order after "financial tsunami"

Threatened by a "financial tsunami," the world must consider building a financial order no longer dependent on the United States, a leading Chinese state newspaper said on Wednesday.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:29 PM
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11. No lies there.
They are the 21st economy for the world. What are we going to do about it?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:44 PM
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21. That has some terrifying undertones if they're serious.
We can't make good on our worthless paper. The rest of the world is going to pick the carcass of the United States clean and we can't stop them as our army has been decimated and our manufacturing base has been mothballed and left to rot.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:55 PM
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30. I've had a suspicion for a LONG time that that's always been the plan. It's not
as if TPTB actually care about America or Americans. What could be easier than telling their creditors "have at it!" and taking off for some enclave like Dubai?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:13 PM
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31. In a nice way, there are saying
we are no longer in control of what economy rules in 2008. Sucks, but it's true.
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:30 PM
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12. We're Witnessing a Paradigm Shift:

World economic leadership will shift away from the U.S., to Asia or Europe.

Can the United States be a superpower if it is drowning in debt?

I doubt it!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:46 PM
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25. "drowning in debt" is an economic fundamental that McShame hasn't
mentioned. He seems to think that the workers' desire to work is enough, and since the opposition attacking that would be political suicide, he wants to be the first on that boat made of dried sugar.

We're in big bad trouble as a nation trying to stay on top as a superpower.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:32 PM
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14. "May you live in interesting times." Chinese curse.
The times have certainly become interesting thanks to the nincompoops in D.C.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:34 PM
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17. i'm watching Blomberg right now which imo is far superior to Cnbc and i have to tell
you Bloomberg ain't putting any lipstick on the pig. They also cover the asian and european markets live.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:40 PM
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19. I don't get Bloomberg, so how bad is it looking on a scale of 1 to 10? 10 being Great Depression 2.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:41 PM
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20. well Bloomberg is more nuts and bolts and they've had several wall street types
on all saying "Panic in the markets". The AIG bailout hasn't done jack adn the fear on the street is---who is next? Also massive panic selling as to be expected.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:45 PM
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22. Sounds like tomorrow is going to be a bloody day. nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:46 PM
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24. it's going to be something alright, i don't know if the bargain hunters will be buying up
stock or if the market will dive another 400 points.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:45 PM
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23. money's off the table
good night and good luck.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:46 PM
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26. As I said somewhere else, been expecting this for some time
but it is still shocking nonetheless
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:49 PM
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28. i think we've all been kind of expecting it mostly because we here at du have been discussing
the housing mess for the past 3 years while the media and Bush has been talking up the "Ownership society". I have 7 years left on my mortagae and thank the deity we never borrowed any money off the equity and we also bought less than we could afford.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:50 PM
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29. Not everbody... just a good percentage
there are folks, even here, still in denial that the problems are systemic and very serious
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:49 PM
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27. Bloomberg.com live video stream
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:17 PM
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32. you reap what you sow
Bush’s economic strategy was equivalent to a careless teenager spending wildly with their parent’s credit card, assuming someone else will magically cover the bills. Frankly I couldn’t care less. It’s time to level the field between the haves and have nots.
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