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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:39 AM
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The Spain spin - McShame really won't meet with the Spanish "president"
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/09/sheunemann_mccain_just_doesnt_want_to_meet_with_spains_pm.php

Wow. I really thought that John McCain’s Spain gaffe was just that, a gaffe, wherein he somehow got confused about what was happening and didn’t understand that the question about holding a meeting with Spanish Prime Minister José Zapatero was a question about Spain and Europe rather than rogue leaders from Latin America. Certainly that strikes me as the fairest reading of the audio. Here’s the relevant portion, in English:

But now along comes Randy Scheueneman with an official campaign statement saying that it wasn’t a gaffe, that McCain was articulating an actual “no meetings with Spain” policy:

(snip)

That’s an insane policy. Recall that under the North Atlantic Treaty, the United States is actually obligated to go to war on behalf of Spanish territorial integrity and vice versa. Also — McCain might want to hire someone who can clarify for his campaign that the head of state in Spain is the “king” and the head of government is the “prime minister.”
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:41 AM
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1. Damn...to the bitter end
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:08 PM
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16. Wait, this is Randy-tell-that-Georgian-pup
"Yeah! Invade South Ossetia! THAT'S THE TICKET!" saying SPAIN now belongs to the axis-of-evil, to be shunned at all costs??? Hä??? :crazy:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:11 PM
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18. I know! LOL He displayed his ignorance and instead of admitting it
he went with this...Spain = evil doer

LMAO

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:41 AM
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2. His campaign weighed their options: admit lack of knowledge, confusion, memory loss...OR decide
to run with the "Spain sucks" angle--neither is a good option, but they chose the less politically damaging.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:41 AM
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3. Wow and they were even part of the sparse Coallition of the Willing n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:46 AM
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6. No that was the right wing government before José Zapatero
and the first thing he did was pull out his troops.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:49 AM
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9. shhh! I still say McCain is being illogical n/t
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:44 AM
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4. Does this mean no more Pallela?...

Damn him
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:47 AM
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8. No we have to call it "Freedom Rice" now!!!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:58 AM
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11. Eeeewwwwwww!!!! Somebody forgot to take the heads and shells off
those shrimp before putting them in!!!!

Jesus. What are you supposed to do, just eat the whole thing????????
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:45 AM
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5. is that one NATO nation palin won't 'come to the aid of' if Russia invades?
just wonderin? :shrug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:47 AM
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7. Oh make no mistake, it was a gaffe; he was confused.
this is just his campaign spinning it the best way they know how, which is to say "yeah, that's right, John McCain is just that baddass, dammit.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:51 AM
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10. So Mr. "We're all Georgians Now" just gave the finger to Spaniards?
:wtf: Seriously. :wtf:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:59 AM
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12. What did Spain do to piss off Grandpa McSame? Seriously.
Is he gonna add them to his list of countries to go to war against, just for the hell of it???
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:11 PM
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17. He's just remembering the Maine
To hell with the Dons! says McCain.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:00 PM
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13. It was gaffe and now they're making it worse.
I don't think McCain meant it in the first place.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:02 PM
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15. I completely agree.
Some in Spain misinterpreted, and McCain's campaign is running with it (apparently) so as not to appear like McCain got confused (which he did).
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:01 PM
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14. Well despite what the Spanish press and McCain's campaign says...
I think it was a gaffe. The whole thing is ridiculous.
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