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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:12 PM
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There's one demographic that will solidly reject Palin across party lines
Grammarians. She is without a doubt one of the worst wordsmiths ever to reach national prominence. It's horrifying. Look at this, for example--just fucking look at it:

I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness. And knowing that you can’t blink. You have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country, and victory in the war. You can’t blink. So, I didn’t blink then, when asked to run as his running mate.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:13 PM
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1. but
proper command of the english language is so elitist...

:P
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:14 PM
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2. Shows a disturbing lack of education and, possibly, intelligence. - n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:47 PM
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20. And she majored in JOURNALISM!
:banghead:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:56 PM
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27. Unfortunately, journalism doesn't equate to English
or even writing. I used to teach at a University (Computer Science), the Journalism school would send over droves of students to take introductory programming courses... because learning Pascal or Fortran counted as a "foreign language" for them. I kid you not.

Not that there aren't some outstanding writers who started out as journalists.

But look at her career.

Five or Six schools in five years to get a degree in journalism.

TV Sports caster for a local station.

Vice President of the United States (candidate).

========================================

We really have lowered the standards for high office in this country.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:59 PM
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29. Journalism doesn't equate to English
but you'd think they'd at least learn to put a damn sentence together! x(
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:15 PM
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30. That would be nice...
but for a former beauty queen wanting to be the weather gal or sports gal on the TeeVee, apparently it's not required.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:17 PM
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3. Yeah, they're called "sane people"..... n/t
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:18 PM
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4. Here's what I find disturbing: "the mission that we’re on, reform of this country"
Not reform of the corruption by certain current office-holders, but "reform of this country"!

Into what?

I'll bet you can guess what her mission is.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:41 PM
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16. Yeah, that one phrase really leaped out and grabbed me first time I heard it.
Silly old lady I may be, but I've grown rather fond of this country the way the Founding Fathers formed it -- the Revised Standard Sarah Palin version of the U.S.A. is not something I care to see.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:40 PM
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39. An America Controlled by the "Moral Majority"...
Oh, and did I mention "white"? Oops. Not supposed to mention that here.

But it's funny. A lot of African-Americans are even MORE devout than the average Southern (White) Baptist... but that sure doesn't integrate churches.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:19 PM
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5. What do you expect? The teleprompter was out -nt
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Mr. McD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:21 PM
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6. Sounds like verbage to me.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:24 PM
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7. I'm now convinced
Since she's been chosen as McCain's running mate, nothing that comes out of her mouth is an original thought. She's being force-fed talking points to memorize and regurgitate, but she's too stupid to actually understand them and thus cannot properly string together a sentence. Her inner monologue is probably something like this.

"Okay Sarah, you can do this! You're the closest woman in history to the Oval Office and you like totally deserve it! Now just remember what was on that note card . . . something something buzzword . . . something something big word that I didn't have time to look up . . . something something Russia is something from Alaska . . . that should do it. Man, I really have beauty, brains and power!"
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:44 PM
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34. Devastatingly funny parody of her speaking style here...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:13 PM
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37. No wonder she and ** sound alike. They have the same coaches.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:31 PM
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8. Alas, I'm sure those right-wing grammarians who voted for bush the last two cycles
won't be scared away by Palin's grammar.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:33 PM
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9. Well, Krauthammer, Will and Wick Allison are all anti-Palin
Partially for that reason, no doubt. No shortage of elitism in the conservative movement old guard.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:34 PM
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10. All those schools, community colleges, state colleges,
and she never did learn how to speak proper English?

Yeah, but her constituency goes crazy happy for her when she speaks ungrammatically. It makes them feel like she's "one of them," because her constituency is a bunch of cretins.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:43 PM
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18. But she's the kind of candy-date the cretins want to sit down and have a beer with. And then get
her into the back of the truck, if they can manage it.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:59 PM
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28. Oh, they'll get her ....................
if, that is, they have something she wants.

That girl never gave it up for the sheer joy of it; she wasn't fucking - she was trading.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:34 PM
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11. Grammar Nazis Against Palin! LOL! n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:35 PM
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12. Well those fuckers need to start voting. Bush isn't exactly a wordsmith, either.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:37 PM
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14. The deeply weird thing is, he used to be passably articulate.
If you watch some of his old debates with Ann Richards, he appears more cogent than he ever has on the national stage.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:41 PM
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15. Maybe. But he never really mastered the English language.
"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2000

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." --George W. Bush, LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

"Our priorities is our faith." --George W. Bush, Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000

"I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who brings people together." --George W. Bush, Bartlett, Tenn., Aug. 18, 2000

"Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis." --George W. Bush, CNBC, April 15, 2000

"Reading is the basics for all learning." --George W. Bush, announcing his "Reading First" initiative in Reston, Va., March 28, 2000
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:36 PM
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13. The first four words got me:
"I answered him yes" :wtf:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:43 PM
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17. Maybe she's channeling Molly Bloom's soliloquy from Joyce's Ulysses
She's the flower of the mountain, dontcha know.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:50 PM
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23. No doubt that's one of the books she wanted banned (if she was aware of it at all).
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:54 PM
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25. No doubt.
Say in Sarah Palin accent: "Why can't folks just start readin' the Left Behind series?"
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:27 PM
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32. ack, you just tripped my gag reflex. That happens only very seldom.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:45 PM
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19. Why is it that the stupid are cocksure
and the intelligent are full of doubt?
(to paraphrase Bertrand Russell)

Can we be sure that if Palin is involved in a Cuban Missile Crisis of her own, that she will carefully and thoughtfully examine all possibilities?



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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:49 PM
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21. That paraphrases Thucydides and Yeats also, incidentally
The frustrating thing about this veneer is that it's mostly impossible to gather anything more than hints about how these people really consider issues. It's all pageantry, and we have to suss out reality from divining some pattern in past actions.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:51 PM
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24. "And the worst are full of passionate intensity." Who is that?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:54 PM
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26. That would be Yeats. Here's Thucydides in one of his best passages:
To fit in with the change of events, words, too, had to change their usual meanings. What used to be described as a thoughtless act of aggression was now regarded as the courage one would expect to find in a party member; to think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just an attempt to disguise one’s unmanly character; ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action. Fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man, and to plot against an enemy behind his back was perfectly legitimate self-defence . . . and indeed most people are more ready to call villainy cleverness than simple-mindedness honesty. They are proud of the first quality and ashamed of the second.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:00 PM
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35. First thing that strikes me -- the translation is lovingly, nearly perfectly done?
That paragraph just brings us to our knees, doesn't it.
The things we could have learned, if we'd bothered to try.

I made it through the Peloponnesian War (the book, not the war itself) long long ago, but of course was too young to appreciate it then.

Thanks for posting this.
You and Thucydides have improved my day no end.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:11 PM
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36. Compared to Hobbes's translation, it's a lot more readable!
Amazing to think this was written around 2400 years ago, yet remains so relevant.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:16 PM
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31. "Ignorance is bold and knowledge reserved."
“Few things are brought to a successful issue by impetuous desire, but most by calm and prudent forethought.”

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:57 PM
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40. Interesting that Hobbes and so many others saw implicit support for oligarchy in him
He seemed pretty give-and-take on that matter to me.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:50 PM
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22. So much for her Journalism degree?
Must've been one of those correspondance courses.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:34 PM
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33. I genuinely hate that woman.
It isn't just the relentless lying. Or the naked ambition for power (which I believe she has, big time).

It's that kind of grammatical laziness. She's just like George W. Fucking Bush. Intellectually, grammatically lazy. Once in a fucking while, I'd like to sample something close to "the best and the brightest" in our national politics instead of these embarrassments we're presented with.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:06 PM
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38. She's a pretty evocative symbol of the worst in our politics
It will be nice to see her rejected in November. :D
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