Had a really funny conversation with a wingnut today: RE: Obama Birth Certificate, not American...

So basically the guy comes into my shop today. I've got CNN up on the TV, and he makes a comment about how Obama shouldn't even be allowed to run for President.

ME: Why not?

HIM: His birth certificate is fake, he wasn't born inside the US.

ME: He was born in Hawaii.

HIM: No he wasn't. He was born in Kenya.

ME: Where did you hear that?

HIM: On the radio.

ME: Well, he was born in Hawaii, but let me ask you another question. You realize that his mother was an American citizen?

HIM: It doesn't matter what she was, he wasn't born inside the US so he can't be President. He's not really a citizen.

ME: Look, here's where your reasoning is wrong. US law states that the children of US citizens are US citizens. Period. It doesn't matter if he was born on mars, he's still a US citizen at birth.

HIM: I don't think so.

ME: Ok, do me a favor. Next time you're at your computer, sit down and look up John McCain's bio, he was born in Panama. Not in the US, in Panama. So by your logic McCain shouldn't be able to run for President either.

HIM: OK



These wingnuts are so cute when they're spouting off their nonsense.

They have lost their everylovin minds

if the kid is born on American soil he's (or she's) a citizen. Period.

no matter where they are born (though somebody told me they have to naturalize if born elsewhere??).

But I'm not an expert on this, I'm just going by how a couple of my friends as a youngster, born in India had to jump through some hoops.
Either way it's clear that Obama is no less a "real" citizen than McShame. :D

passport and has a Hawaiian birth certificate.

Why do people keep beating this rotten, decomposing equine anyway?

a US citizen born abroad.

I find it funny that all the people that "support the troops" want to make their children born abroad second class citizens.

Yours wasn't entirely correct. There are all kinds of qualifiers and conditions attached to citizenship for those born outside the U.S.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

And if they go look it up as you suggested now they're going to start pointing to all the terms and conditions and thinking they have a point even though they don't. Forget trying to argue the vagueries of how someone born outside the U.S. might still be a citizen, it's irrelevant (unless you want to point out McCain was definitely born in the Panama Canal zone just to screw with their heads)

Just give them this link:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/



That's not just the birth certificate, that's the state government of Hawaii providing the certificate and telling everyone it's the real thing. If they try and argue with that they're conspiracy theorist idiots.

repigs are and always will be, stuck on stupid.

Which would NOT disqualify him.

Pathetic.

I have family like this.

He's a muslin, he's black, he did drugs, all the usual crap.

I usually just chuckle to myself and think "That's the best they can come up with?"

Never once have they brought up a valid issue where they differ politically with Obama.

In the past I could enjoy a debate with the other side, but now they're just reaching, so I don't bother.

is staggering.

wouldn't the McCain Camp make a huge issue out of it? 24/7?