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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:21 AM
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What should the Democrats demand for the bailout of Wall Street?
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 09:24 AM by Onlooker
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Vote2008/story?id=5839134&page=1

"Washington officials have decided that the country's financial crisis is too big and too urgent to fight piecemeal and are working on a massive government bailout that could cost taxpayers as much as $1 trillion.

...

"We know $500 billion or $1 trillion, that's a lot of money. And sooner or later it's going to visit the taxpayer. Sooner or later it's either going to be a debt charged to all of us to our children," (Republican) Shelby said."


If the Democrats are going to be party to this, they better:
(1) Demand far greater regulation of industry
(2) Demand higher taxes for those who will benefit from this bailout, especially those earning huge incomes or who have huge portfolios
(3) Demand severe tax penalties for corporations that move their headquarters offshore to avoid taxes
(4) Demand direct help for those in danger of losing their homes
(5) Demand substantially increased investment in areas that were damage by Katrina and Ike
(6) Establishment of a completely independent investigator to examine areas of corporate and government economic abuse

If they don't insist on those kinds of demands, then they will have sold out the American people.

The liberal community really has to get on this issue, because if Pelosi has taught us anything, she will cave easily to the Republicans.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:22 AM
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1. Prison sentences.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:22 AM
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2. is a general strike in order for all of us now.
I am enraged.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:23 AM
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3. nothing less than the complete restructuring of our socio-economic system
if that's not too much to ask.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:23 AM
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4. (1) Strong, reasonable regulation. (2) Align executives' interests with shareholder interests.
As long as their interests differ, this'll keep happening. It boots nothing to try to get anyone to act against his or her interests.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:24 AM
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7. Umm, what about TAXPAYERS' Interests? It is our money being used to bail them out, non? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:29 AM
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12. Sorry - I write the current situation off as a lost cause. I'm talking about going forward....
Do whatever's expedient for the here-and-now - we're getting screwed on *this* one no matter what. The future however, can be planned for.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:47 AM
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13. Still, the underlying question remains: are corporate interests aligned with those of the people's?
"The future however, can be planned for."

Not if you simply kick the can down the road. Even if BODs' interests were 100% aligned with those of shareholders, it is not obvious that multi-national corporation interests are aligned with those of the American public.

Since it's our money being used to bail these "free market" warriors, we must demand a deeper re-assessment of this relationship.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:47 AM
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14. No, That's why I said to align them. Sheesh.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:54 AM
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16. You said, "Align executives' interests with shareholder interests."
I'm talking about the American people. You seem to be conflating "shareholder" with "US taxpayer".
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:04 AM
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18. Hear Hear!
Tie pay to performance for god's sake, like any other job.

And how about having those asshats pay some percentage back to the small investor who lost everything in Fannie and Freddie, for example, where they LIED in the financial statements? All of the companies who hid their bad debt and kept it off the books owe the small investors something. They are supposed to be beholden to the stock owners, but instead, they are clearly beholden to their own pocketbooks. Prosecute.

any preferred stock holders who "got out early" need to be in jail -- all of Washington needs to be swept and investigated.

This is utter BS.

We will all strike otherwise-- what in the Hell are my tax dollars paying for right now? the cronyism and utter incompetence of these people is staggering.

OVERSIGHT AND REGULATION within reason (to be determined by anyone who is not a free market asshat moran)

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:23 AM
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5. Any chance that the Democrats might OPPOSE this? (Or is "opposition party" just a turn of phrase?)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:24 AM
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6. These banks should be paying us bank in the same manner that
we pay back our lenders. We the American Citizens should consult with an accountant to structure a system for these guys to pay us back and use the profits to finance health care, education, and retirement from this account. Because "the experts" keep saying social security will be depleated! I think they are counting on privitizing our S.S. to make their depleation predition come true.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:25 AM
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8. The presidency sounds good to me.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:26 AM
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9. all of the above
What will REALLY enrage me will be McCain continuing to insist on these massive tax breaks for the very wealthy, who will continue to be wealthy courtesy of MY tax money.

Can you believe this shit?
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:27 AM
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10. How about some cash
directly to the taxpayers? How much would each of us get? I don't know about anyone else, but I could use the money.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:28 AM
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11. How about
if we are going to bailout the rich, investment class, they should pay higher taxes. And NOT have their taxes lowered!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:51 AM
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15. Impeach these criminals or its all over n/t
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:00 AM
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17. Schumer proposed that any relief to corporations be tied to renegotiating mortgage rates yesterday.
"Schumer urged forming an agency to inject funds into financial companies in exchange for equity stakes and pledges to rewrite mortgages and make them more affordable. His remarks indicate momentum is building for some wider plan after the Fed and Treasury's takeovers of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and American International Group Inc. this month.

Schumer advocated a Great Depression-era Reconstruction Finance Corp. model, different from the Resolution Trust Corp.- type plan others have floated. Another RTC, which was a 1990s agency that sold devalued assets in the Savings and Loan Crisis, would ``simply transfer excessive risk to the U.S. government without addressing the plight of homeowners,'' he said."


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a2eqIIK6ev3U&refer=home
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R. P. McMurphy Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:05 AM
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19. K&R n/t
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An Intellectual Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:10 AM
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20. They're capitalist cowards. They should be demanding government ownership of the companies.
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