I was just speaking to my father, a retired minister.

He lives in a very modest 55 and older retirement community made up of prefab homes, not mobile homes, but similar. Very small places. All he could afford, but they own it.

He walks around the neighborhood daily and talks with the other folks. He passed on how some of the people there are terrified about their life savings. One of the guys had his investments in Lehman Brothers and was 'completely shaken', my father said.

These aren't rich people. These are people who worked their entire lives and saved whatever they could for retirement and they are watching it just disappear. That's real. That's what these criminals should be forced to see, better yet, forced to live.

I'm also wondering what the reception was like to Obama's presidential performance in response to the bailouts, which, in my opinion, was far more reassuring and confident than the ones either Bush or McCain put in.

It's because he used to be very very right leaning. He was an Assemblies of God ordained minister, knows Ashcroft because he actually went to the Bible school in MO that his father ran. Ashcroft actually attended the church in New Haven where he was the Associate Pastor when he first started when Ashcroft went to Yale Law. We actually have pictures, well slides, of Ashcroft in his apartment having Sunday meals and playing the piano. This was before Fuzz came into the picture.

As he got older, and his son became more of a lefty, he started to see things a bit differently and is now registered as an independent. The people in his church bought the whole "God wants Bush" bullshit, and he never did, so he NEVER spoke politics from the pulpit or out of it, and I think he still keeps it that way, unless he's talking to me.

He doesn't keep up as much as I do, but he can see through the bullshit.

My mother is in bad health also, and has been for almost 20 years now since she had a brain tumor removed, so health care is a major issue as well.

I feel there should be some pain for all the pain they have foisted upon America by voting for these thugs.

I bet a fair number will stick with the other old guy, McCain, on election day. Those that vote for McCain get not one drop of sympathy from me when they find themselves out on the street.

and see what and who caused this mess once and for all, but who the hell knows.

;-)

and to the rest going, they deserved it, they voted for the pugs... what part of empathy are you missing?

Damn it people not everything is partisan!

Remember how outgoing presidents used to pardon death row inmates? Now it is wall street tycoons.

This is a pre-emptive pardoning!

in the foreclosure mess many of those houses now sit vacant and with what's happened this week i think it's going to get worse.