"FUCK THAT-I'm NOT Voting-For A Blank Check-For Those Mother Fuckers" (Angry Dem Congressmember)

Yes, There Are Deeply Angry Democratic Members of Congress
by: Matt Stoller
Sun Sep 21, 2008 at 10:21

This email is from a lawmaker and it should give you a flavor for what's going on right now in Congress.

Paulsen and congressional Republicans, or the few that will actually vote for this (most will be unwilling to take responsibility for the consequences of their policies), have said that there can't be any "add ons," or addition provisions. Fuck that. I don't really want to trigger a world wide depression (that's not hyperbole, that's a distinct possibility), but I'm not voting for a blank check for $700 billion for those mother fuckers.

Nancy said she wanted to include the second "stimulus" package that the Bush Administration and congressional Republicans have blocked. I don't want to trade a $700 billion dollar giveaway to the most unsympathetic human beings on the planet for a few fucking bridges. I want reforms of the industry, and I want it to be as punitive as possible.

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We may strip out all the gives to industry in the predatory mortgage lending bill that the House passed last November, which hasn't budged in the Senate, and include that in the bill. There are other ideas on the table but they are going to be tough to work out before next week.

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I'm open to other ideas, and I am looking for volunteers who want to hold the sons of bitches so I can beat the crap out of them.

more at:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8374

This is where the pitchforks hit the road.

it's the knee-on-knee hits that end careers.

Of very painful restraining holds in my repetoire'. I would be honored to offer them up in such a worthy cause.

Oh, to sink my thumbs into some of those mastoid processes...

NGU.

with real anger...

Not that I wouldn't mind seeing it in this case. I just don't see him doing it. :rofl:

And as a youth, Dennis was.

Don't let appearances fool you. Kucinich could very possibly whup someone like wimpy Bush.

I can easily picture Dennis Kucinich beating the crap out of someone. What he lacks in size he more than makes up for in will and guts, and that's all it takes.

Fire-breathing Liberal, he is. :thumbsup:

deferential, and above all, compliant. "Yessir. Begging your pardon, Sir. Whatever you say.... A blank cheque you want, a blank cheque, you shall have. 'Carte blanche' to do whatever you fancy. Have a nice day, Sir. Let me know if you want me to shine your shoes again, won't you?"

She has the balls to say that. She has already said on the floor that we had a coup d'etat in 2000 and that Cheney gets a check every month from Halliburton for this Iraq war.

She has had her words stricken from the official record and has been reprimanded more than once for her truthful assessment of our country.

So I can hear her saying this. I can't wait to call her office tomorrow to get her take on this bailout.

Can I write in the name of your congressman? Mine is as blue a dog as you will find anywhere

Every single person here should be e-mailing like mad tonight. Follow that up with phone calls tomorrow. A deluge of correspondence at least lets the cowards in our own party that we are indeed watching. I don't really know if I can feel worse knowing that Schumer is my senator, and if Hillary has any spirit left, this is her chance to shine. I really can't see a down side for these two. It's not like they are threatened by opposition here in NY. I know their offices are tired of me and I'm probably on some kind of list there, but they will hear from me again anyway.

Who are these anonymous people here defending and promoting right wing free market positions, and mocking and ridiculing left wing ideas?

That is the question of the hour.

...ardent New Dealers at heart?

Eh, this bailout is more like the Raw Deal for us.

after giving * a blank check for iraq! :grr:

Contact your Senator

Contact your Representative

Here's my email to each:



REC THIS THREAD TO THE TOP OF THE LIST!

:mad:

I'm pissed and I'm not gonna take it anymore! :grr:

and highly recommended for everyone that's tired of this President and his Admin sticking it to "we the people".

Done & Done

My letter to my congresscritters:

I am writing to implore you to do the right thing for your constituents (many of whom are losing their homes) and NOT support ANY blank check for Secretary Paulson or any other member of this or any other administration. Any solution to this crisis MUST include transparency, oversight, regulation and, above all, a mechanism to help the millions of Americans who are struggling as a result of the malfeasance of the banking industry's leaders. In my humble opinion, the bill being proposed by Secretary Paulson which contains no oversight or accountability would be the antithesis of a sane and rational solution to this crisis. We have seen what happens when we write blank checks to friends of the Bush Administration: we either get cheated out of our money or we get second rate work at 5 times the price. ENOUGH! We need to reach a solution to this crisis as soon as possible but we don't have to sell the American people down the river (again) to enrich fat cats whose ideologies have proven to be ridiculously and horribly bankrupt. Once again, I implore you to do the right thing and vote against any blank check for the banking industry fat cats. This is the seminal issue of this election season and if you want the support of Minnesotans, you should go to bat for the little guy on this one! Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Just wrote to them

I put them under "favorites" and will be using them often.... matter of fact... I just used 'em. thanks again!

their hearts and minds will follow"? If the Dems are really different than the Repubs, they should realize they have them by the nuts and act accordingly.

in his pocket.

It was supposed to have come from a sign in Charles Colson's office during watergate, but is often attributed as a quote from Nixon.

I'd like to see every Congress person hold a joint press conference and tell every American that their entire future depends on this and they had better drop everything and come personally to Washington, by the tens of millions, and surround the Capitol building to make sure their interests are preserved here. If e-mails, faxes, letters, and phone calls don't get the attention of the scalawags who support another Bush blank check, maybe millions of angry people would.

Might as well fill up on the dinner rolls, because that will be a long time coming.

on their w4 form, and withheld their taxes would really get their attention. Max your deductions, and put your income tax in an escrow account. Personally, I'm not contributing to the welfare of these pricks. They don't give a fiscal shit about me or my well being. They only care that I make my fucking payments on time, and that the long slow rape via shitty interest rates work to their advantage. Fuck them all. We should all simply refuse to bail them out. It would take an organized effort, but it would be a thing of beauty.

I'm open to other ideas, and I am looking for volunteers who want to hold the sons of bitches so I can beat the crap out of them.

From your lips to any God's ears.

I suspect that Mark Stroller is the author rather than any particular congress person. If I'm wrong, and I hope I am, I'd like to known which members feel this way and what we can do to help them.

...despite how it appears, yes we do have some angry folks in Congress. Unfortunately they're usually silent.

SCREW THAT, I say! How many times do you have to hear "the dog ate my homework" before you start imposing some STIFF sanctions?

On Norm Coleman's web site. "It's a time for action..." (no, Norm, it's a time to THINK).

I've been busy writing my Congresspeople plus others who I respect.

Matt Stoller lives in Philly and has a lot of contact with congresscritters in PA and NJ. I would bet that this email came from a congresscritter in one of those states.

we give AIG a loan with AN ADJUSTABLE INTEREST RATE.

Make all these bastards take out ARMs for their bad debts.

"Any company that is too big to fail is too big to exist!"

EDIT - misspelled word

either one will be fine with me

to everyone in this country who wants to pound the shit out of these bastards, we could get out of this financial mess and retire the national debt! It's waaaay past time for some seriously righteous anger!:wtf: :grr: :nuke:

without head baskets.

Other than the course this person suggests CxOs, etc. take, they can take a reduced salary - current minimum wage should suffice (I'm sure they think it's good enough for others!).

She's gonna vote for that blank check and I am ready to fucking walk away from any dem support I'm so pissed right now.

this will prevail.

I don't want another "stimulus package". I want safeguards. I want to be sure no big exec, who steered these deals that have hurt us all, gets a nice payout. I want to be sure that this can't happen anymore, and that going forward, stupid gamblers assume all the risk of their gambling.

just say how bad the motherfuckers are.

but in private

then bow before Pelosi in public and sell us all down the river

been here, seen this

want my money back

Screw them - let the suns-a-bitches melt down! It isn't gonna affect my grovelling existence anyways!!! What the fuck do I care if the rich bastards get their rich asses saved????? :banghead:

I had NO influence BEFORE it all collapsed - and you can DAMNED SURE BET I'll be given ZERO say in how it's handled thereafter. BUT they're gonna fix it on OUR damned backs! :grr:

Now, look at the spineless Congress, cowering before those seeking a Federal bailout for their crooked ways.

I'd call their bluff. The gutless wonders? They'll cave by the end of the week on everything sensible.

"they wouldn't invade Poland would they?!" What a fear factor tool!

I want them to replace Nancy Pelosi. Right now.

I know a few pissed off Republicans, that like Obama, but will not vote for him because Pelosi is running the house.

So I can shower his path with rose pedals!

My former congressman.

And that's exactly what we're dealing with.

"A $700 billion dollar giveaway to the most unsympathetic human beings on the planet" indeed.

I'd rather stack $700 billion a mile high and burn it.

Please don't vote for this bail out of wall street.The CEO's need to be held accountable for their actions.The citizens of America deserve more than this.Congress needs to be held for these actions also.My family Of 4 can't afford the cost of 2,300 for each member.
I wouldn't want to run into you on the streets of Anniston and have to give you a piece of my mind and humilate you!I know that you came from better roots than what this problem presents.

Jim Houston

I also asked him how he sleeps at night, how could he sleep when he fails to hold the Bush White House accountable.

Total BS. Bushit will get all he wants from this capitulating congress. Just put it on the credit card, right there with the Iraq war bill. No big deal. Except it is.
More words of nothing. Oh, some will yell but the fuckers will still get their money while the poor amongst us can just have crap. Oh yeah, some congress critter goes all frothy at the mouth. Sure. Right up till it's time for someone to pony up the cash for the next election than it's all pats on the back for the rich bankers. I am mad, mad as hell, and I am really tired of this bs. fuck

None of these banks or insurance companies would be "too big to fail" if anti-trust laws hadn't been repealed, rewritten, and ignored, over the past thirty years.

Break up all the monopolies NOW! Not just financial companies, also industrial, and especially media conglomerates.

The whole country and democracy itself will benefit from this.

Anger makes people blind. A blind angry backlash against free enterprise can do as much damage as blind greedy deregulation.

Think before acting.

not sure what you're on about.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, that New Deal sure did a lot of damage. And the Labor union movement. And the Abolition movement.

"A blind angry backlash against slavery can do as much damage as slavery" people said, but those damned Abolitionists went ahead anyway.

This mad rush in two days is becoming a cure worse than the disease.

The government is and should be in a mad dash to pass this Republican power and money grab, and we should support that, because anything else would be a mad dash, and a mad dash would be a bad thing....er....um.

So mad dashes are OK when they benefit the wealthy and powerful, but the rest of us are not even permitted to speak, because that would be a mad dash, and would do some great harm somehow?

Of course the New Deal was not cooked up in two days. But it started with people talking just the way that they are talking here - the people you are scolding and trying to discourage - and would never have happened had people heeded those with the view you are taking here now. Of course.

Interesting technique on your part. The administration is in a mad dash to pass a cure that may well be worse than the disease, and so you say that those who point that out are the ones in a mad dash, and that their criticism of the administration's plan is a cure worse than the disease.

HAVA, NCLB, IWR, the Patriot Act, the Bankruptcy bill, the Military Commissions Act... we have had quite a few "mad dashes," haven't we though? And those "cures" all turned out to be much worse than the "disease."

But you would have it that it is the critics of those bad cures and mad dashes who are actually the ones responsible for mad dashes and bad cures?

You seem to be willfully completely misunderstanding me.

I would very much welcome hearing a more detailed explanation of your views on this. I didn't have much to respond to there.

I would love to discuss this in more depth.

pitch before.

Looks like the haves and the have nots will be getting to know one other a lot better... If we're not careful... Right?

The "My Way or the Highway" is not the only way!!!

We have the capacity for much more.

where that came from.

The deal is that whatever Paulsen does cannot be reviewed by the Courts, he is to be given free rein and a revolving account probably for his friends ,,, etc.

To quote a friend: Worse than that--the $700 billion is a rolling amount--like a revolving charge card in reverse. They can have as much as $700 billion in assets based on what they paid for them, rather than what they're worth. So, they buy $700 billion worth of crap at premium prices, sell it for crap prices, and then buy more crap at premium prices. Plus, Paulson gets to pick which private firms manage the accounts and what fees are paid to them. It's a giant swindle.

will happen. :dem:

We have these Republican imbeciles over a rain barrel. Chaaaaaaarge !!!

we got raped by Wall Street and now they want us to pay for our own rape kit. Tell your congress person hell no!:mad:

The big guys get a blank check and the little guy has to suffer for 10 years with no bailout.:wtf:

who had the balls to say that in email? And will he actually follow through with it?

the quote in the OP attributable?

NoFederales

Chaka doesn't seem that feisty.

Now my former congressman, John Conyers, on the other hand... ;)

This is what he said "Mr. Paulson is resisting efforts to limit the pay of executives whose firms participate in the program and plans to fight it "hard," according to a person familiar with the matter. He fears that provision would render the program moot, since many firms might choose not to participate." Can you believe this? I am more than xxxxx! I will not stand by and let this happen calmly. These thieves need to be in jail now!

...about exactly how to make this a blank check.

CALL them NOW-- show your support! Don't just sit there. Reid: 202.224.3542 Pelosi: 202.225.4965 Schumer:202.224.6542 Google for others.

Congress must HEAR from us and know we want Oversight & transparency, mortgage help for homeowners, no golden parachute/executive pay, & to include a stimulus package for average citizens. The assistant I spoke to said they pay attention to phone calls!! (Need more info on the bailout go to Huffington Post). Send to all Dems...MAKE THE CALLS.

I'll be ready with the lead pipe to the back of the head. I want the cocksuckers responsible for this shit to die. Die a miserable, painful, slow, excruciating death. Then I'd like to burn the bodies and piss out the flames.

Yeah, I'm fucking angry too.

If the American People with their Representation fail to arrest all crooks involved with this scam that has been going on for who knows how long, the Dollar and all Credibility will go down the tubes. All Foreign Investors will pull out of the American Market and your 401k's will be worthless. It needs to happen now. A statement that we intend to get to the bottom of what has happened and that all crooks will be jailed. Without that no amount of money for bailouts or loans will do anything.

ALL the regulations that Bush and his Rethug crew destroyed to make this disaster possible need to be put back in place and not one of those sorry SOB's should walk away with their damned golden parachutes intact!

These lyin ass republicans that rail against "socialism" when you talk about health care are all for it now that it benefits them!:mad:

I am writing to express my deep hope that the pending banking bailout will NOT be a blank check to the banking industry that got us into this crisis.

I am strongly in favor of capping CEO pay - they should not get a golden parachute while their employees and stockholders pay.

Further, there needs to be complete transparency in the review process. As a taxpayer, I want to know how my hard earned money is being spent on this bailout.

Any plan that does not include these provisions is unacceptable.

This in one of those moments where the Democrats need to stand strong and stand united for the middle class and for the future of America.

We gave the Bush administration a blank check on the Iraq war - please don't give them a blank check on our economy.

No bailouts only loans if they qualify (no criminal action, no stupid loan deals). Hey I'll give you my address and you can send me some money for free. How about that?

Your letters won't reach them in time you had better call.

Let these companies scramble.

I know that's a very simplistic view, but whatever the complicated version would be, I say boil it down to:

They want 700B; they get 250B. Let them scramble and make it work. If they're asking for 700B, they probably only need 100B anyway.

Strip out everything that will let the fat cats go to sleep with smiles on their faces and a belly full of mignon and scotch.

Paulson and Bernanke pooh-poohed this oncoming disaster for at least a year while, the same way Bush sat comatose when being told about the approach of Hurricane Katrina. Now Paulson wants $700B in his pocket to spend any way he wants? Is he nuts? No. Co-signers, (maybe the majority leaders and chairmen of the finance committees) should be required in order for him to spend one dime.

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The uproar against it, to quote a great theatrical work, is the music of a people who will not be slaves again!

Same rhetoric used, but instead of "Don't read it, don't dare oppose it, must hurry and pass it NOW or we'll be attacked again and we'll all die!"

it's

"Don't read it, don't oppose it, must hurry or and pass it NOW or the economy will collapse and we'll all die!"

and then
(Insert obligatory *Democrats Hate America* meme here)

We've been here before! We can't allow them to push this through as it is.