Will the dems in Congress fold?

Will they buckle under the pressure put on them by the admin, and give Hank and bushy everything they're demanding? hank wants his $700 billion now and with no strings attached.

This is reminding me more and more of the push for the Patriot Act and the dire warnings that bushco used to push it. But there's a difference between the Congress then and the Congress now. Then it was under puke control. Now it's under dem control.

If they let this "splurge" be rammed through, they're less than useless. They need to take the time to craft legislation that doesn't allow hank to operate with no oversight, that doesn't reward the criminals in top management and that provides for restructering mortgages for those in, or threatened with foreclosure. If doing this takes two weeks or so, well, fine. And if they cave, fuck them.

Dem that caves on this one. I've had it with this greed and corruption and I don't care what party they belong to!!!

I hope they're ready for the people in the streets if they do. This is their moment to stand up for the American people.

I think it's 700 billion though.

and thanks for pointing that out. Fixed.

and the answer is yes

rush job with little or no debate that so characterized the Patriot Act.

foreign banks and money markets now. It's a robbery of epic proportions.

wanna bet on the outcome?

Dem control? uh . . . explain that in the context of the past two years.

The Dems will attach a few pet expenditures - and call it a victory.

Subpoenas, war funding, torture... what gives the impression that they might not fold? 0.o

Sadly, when the criticism turns towards congress I find myself agreeing with the rw'ers about Pelosi being worthless.
(though we have different reasons for thinking it)

I actually don't have any hope for the House, but I do have a modicum of it for the Senate.

There has to be a reason why "Impeachment is off the table", and I don't think it's fear. It has to be greed.

would lose the dems the election.

...Bush White House in the brink, makes us look weak and blind.

That's what they do.

pushing through, past the Repuke filibuster (unlikely ... make it public which R is filibustering the bill), and call Bush's bluff ...

If he wants to bail out his buddies, he has to sign it or face a nasty public exposure ...

The Paulson Sell-out is not what is needed, period. That said, the financial stability of millions of pensions, savings, homes and other assets hang in the balance. Thus, if there is to be a minimum amount of damage to the vast majority who have assets and other investments, a bail-out of some sort is needed...but not as a blank check.

The time to investigate and blame is to come, the first step is to just a band-aid. This is kicking the financial mess past the elections and not to cave-in to the "greymail" that the Paulson sell-out gives...no oversight, unlimited printing of money to cover speculators and little, if any, reform or accountablility...the typical boooosh sell-out.

Right now, the focus has to be on how the American taxpayer is about to get screwed...and if that message resonates, watch the Democrats stand firm. Yes, there will be some kind of bail-out coming, but I don't see it passing in its present form...and this will not be a final solution to the problem. The game will be to push for the needed changes and put it to the GOOP and force them to fight the changes. Control the debate and message and win the election...it's that simple.

exactly.

NAME ONE TIME THEY DID NOT CAVE IN. JUST ONE.

I can't do it.

The whole bail out package being requested is an absolute sham, and the biggest sham ever perpetuated. They should turn them down flat, or at least demand the moon and the sun in exchange.

They won't. They'll settle for some half-assed version of their proposed stimulus package and call it a victory, while they vote to bankrupt the United States. Fucking pansies.

i think that congress is going to try to stay strong on this but i am wondering if Bush can undo whatever they come up with with signing statements. I don't know to much about them but can't the president add stuff to bills?

They'll give Paulson his blank check with maybe a few tiny little riders. And it'll happen this week. They're terrified that if they don't, and the economy/stock market tanks, they'll be blamed.

The economy will tank anyway, but at least they'll be able to say, Well, we tried!

They don't have much of a track record of doing much else, do they?

"Does anyone have any confidence at all in the Democrats' willingness and/or ability to impede this bailout train if the Bush administration and the Right were vigorously behind it, warning the nation of impending doom unless we submit to vast, unchecked government power of the type Henry Paulson is demanding? The instances of complete Democratic acquiescence under those circumstances -- including when they "controlled" the Congress -- are far too numerous to allow any rational person to think Democrats, standing alone, would stop the Paulson plan. As sad as it is, meaningful right-wing opposition is critical for that to happen. ......"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4058695

Like the 'Pugs, the Dems have their own Wall St. corporate masters to pay back, and this is what those masters want, this bailout. The Dems will indeed cave and we'll all be screwed.