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needledriver Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:01 PM
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I sure miss the Big Dog.
Time was on DU we all got this kind of nostalgic glow about the Big Dog, who spoke in complete, intelligible sentences, how good the economy was, how he left a surplus, back when America had the respect of the world, how fighting terrorism was a police function -not a Mission from God, - you, know - that guy.


Whatever happened to that guy?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:04 PM
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1. "Whatever happened to that guy? " -He's now THIS guy:
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 02:05 PM by cyberpj

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:08 PM
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2. Good one... Willy is soooo over for me...n/t
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:31 PM
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14. "Willy"??? Been listening to Rush again?
Bake
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needledriver Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:10 PM
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6. Oh.
Weird how that photo almost makes me nostalgic for GHW Bush. At least the two men in this photo are grownups. How can he stand what his dimwit son is doing?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:13 PM
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8. Sorry but Bush Sr. wasn't too bright either. W is every bit his father's son.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 02:13 PM by ReadTomPaine
Herbert's always been a corrupt tool.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:14 PM
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9. That's the point I'm at now after watching him on Letterman.
Seriously.

"Bailout is good...McCain is good."

That doesn't fly with me. I think he's been bought.



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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:41 PM
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16. They know how to "win" elections -I'm sure they promised him HIllary but she didn't get the primary
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 06:10 PM by cyberpj
No wonder he's been so mad for so long at Obama.

Plus - Clintons are high level DLC - Republican lite - not true Dems anymore.

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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:53 PM
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21. Not true Dems, never were, Bill who? Governor of where?
Lots of similarities with Sarah who? Governor of where? Let's wake up shall we?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:09 PM
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3. I miss him too........I remember when he came out every other
day to tell us how good the economy was.....stocks soared and people worked under that perception of our country. Now it is doom and gloom from both sides of the aisle. I doubt we will ever see positive again.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:43 PM
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17. Truthfully though, Clinton gets a lot of credit for the computer and dot com boom economics with
which he had nothing to do.

Tech growth is the story of the Clinton years.

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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:09 PM
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4. Hmm
Well im new myself.. but how would you know how DU was talking about him since you joined on Aug 17th 2007... right before primary season... must be a coincidence?
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needledriver Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:19 PM
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11. Simple, really.
I'm what they call a Zombie. My original DU registration was on 18 November 2004, but I had been lurking for some time before that. One of my opinions turned out to be unpopular with an old time DUer, and I got Tombstoned. It took me three years to "crawl out of the grave", but I did it honestly; I re-registered under my original username, and have been a good boy ever since.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:10 PM
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5. I've heard that personality changes can happen to people after heart surgery...
Perhaps that has something to do with it.

Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can't remember names or numbers as they once did, experience sleep disturbances (including nightmares), suffer mood swings, and lose intellectual acuity. Approximately 30 percent of people suffer persistent depression and some even contemplate suicide.

Our former president needs our understanding and support. A simple explanation by his doctors of the cause of his recent aberrant behaviors should bring peace of mind to Hillary and her campaign staff. If Mr. Clinton better understood his current limitations, he and his staff could take precautionary steps to avoid embarrassments. A long-overdue explanation would help his adoring public more easily accept his mistakes and readily forgive him. It is not your fault, Mr. Clinton.

As importantly, public recognition of the harm done to Bill Clinton by the heart surgery business would help the patients who undergo bypass surgery, and their families, to better understand similar changes they have experienced. A little attention from the media could also shine some light on the lack of survival benefits from this $90,000 procedure performed nearly half-a-million times annually in the US, and the superior benefits coming from diet and lifestyle changes.


http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008other/080412clinton.htm
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:18 PM
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10. He has my understanding.
Just keep him under wraps and don't let him campaign.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:11 PM
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7. He's back in the news over his repeal of Glass-Steagall (which helped banking deregulation)
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 02:14 PM by mod mom
Clinton's Legacy Has Caught Up With Us

By astral66 - March 18, 2008, 3:38PM
Clinton, Republicans agree to deregulation of US financial system
By Martin McLaughlin
1 November 1999


An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.


The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.


The certain result of repeal of Glass-Steagall will be a wave of mergers surpassing even the colossal combinations of the past several years. The Wall Street Journal wrote, "With the stroke of the president's pen, investment firms like Merrill Lynch & Co. and banks like Bank of America Corp., are expected to be on the prowl for acquisitions." The financial press predicted that the most likely mergers would come from big banks acquiring insurance companies, with John Hancock, Prudential and The Hartford all expected to be targeted.

-snip

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/clintons-legacy-has-caught-up.php
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:44 PM
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18. and so many Dems don't want to know that about DLC Dems.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:48 PM
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20. It's one big MONEY Party to them. Winner gets more.
:mad:
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:24 PM
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12. When he was inaugurated he had to drink the KoolAid. It's the law. n/t
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:24 PM
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13. The Clintons are consummate politicians...
...They are good at what they do because it is so natural for them. They are what they are. Don't hate them too much, just know.

To borrow from a parable" "You knew I was a snake when you brought me in from the cold. I'm just being a snake."
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:45 PM
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19. Well said. And point taken. nt
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:32 PM
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15. Fuck Bill Clinton
before he fucks you.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:53 PM
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22. I greatly miss my late Patriotic Big Dog
Ben-Ben, aka, The beast from the East! :loveya:

(note the red, white and blue ribbon in his top knot) :patriot:


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