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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:16 PM
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Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" just came out in Paperback. Barnes & Noble in NC never heard of it!
What the hell is going on? Barnes & Noble guy did a search and said he couldn't find either a paperback or original hard cover book for "Shock Doctrine" or Naomi Klein in his Database? BTW this was at a major mall here in Raleigh, NC.

I would expect it from our outer NC Booksellers like "Books-a-Million" who seem to stock overwhelming supplies of Christian Fundie books.... but Barnes & Noble?

Anyone else have this problem?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:17 PM
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1. That's alarming -- were you at Crabtree? nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:18 PM
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4. Triangle Town Center....and yes I know how to spell both the Title and Klein's name...
Either search would have come up with something in the database.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:50 PM
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29. That's just odd. It was a big enough seller for them to publish it in
paperback :shrug:

Maybe the REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE employee was lying to you? Maybe someday they'll find all the store's copies in his/her basement? :tinfoilhat:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:17 PM
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2. did you give him the spelling?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:20 PM
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8. How many people don't understand how to spell "Shock Doctrine" who work in bookstores?
:eyes: If one "Googles" just putting in Shock would give you the correct search answer even if you had to read through some links to find the book title.....
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:26 PM
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14. Call back until you get a different employee
Spell the title if need be. They will locate the book in their system.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:18 PM
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3. I'm in Apex NC
was planing to go to Border's at Walnut Creek and get a copy. I'll post if they have it. :hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:33 PM
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17. Thanks...I'm not sure if this is just a clueless employee or a conspiracy...but
it was a bad experience.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:04 PM
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24. I usually order from Amazon
but, since I'm going to be out tomorrow I wanted to get it and start reading. If they're clueless in Cary I'll post. :hi:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:17 PM
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26. Please do. I'm in Cary/Apex as well and planned to get it. n/t
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:19 PM
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5. It's on the B&N website - here is the link....
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:20 PM
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6. it's on their website...
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=shock+doctrine

Maybe the system at the stores is less forgiving and he kept spelling it "Schock Doctrine" or something like that. (It still comes up on the website even when you misspell it, though.)
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:20 PM
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7. Operator error...... or a repuke which, in that case , would be due to Operator Era....n/t
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 05:28 PM by 1Hippiechick
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:23 PM
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11. I thought it was a Repuke, too...but didn't want to get into a brawl with him
and he kept clicking his computers for both "Shock Doctrine and Naomi Klein," and saying..."well, I'm just not coming up with anything for either the title or author.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:21 PM
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9. I bought The Shock Doctrine off the shelf from
Barnes and Noble on Kendall Drive in Miami. Something's wrong there.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:24 PM
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12. It's Raleigh, then. It was NOT on the shelf for new release or in politics or
economics and that's why I went to the "help desk" to ask them to locate it for me.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:00 PM
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23. I know it's Raleigh but it had to be on their system n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:23 PM
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10. Relax. The guy might be a new employee
I used to work at a B&N, and it wasn't uncommon for new hires to simply not know how to search properly for items (i.e., typing in title keywords in the 'author' search field, or isbn field, etc.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:27 PM
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15. Okay...I'll give him a break, then. But, it wasn't on the shelves where it should be..and that's
why I asked for help. I'm not clueless...I worked for over a decade in publishing...so I know where to look. I should have just gone to Amazon ...it would have been easier but since the paperback came out and I was in the mall...figured I'd pick it up while I was there.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:37 PM
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18. Some reasons why the book wasn't where it was supposed to be:
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 05:40 PM by brentspeak
1) Most copies of a recent bestselling softcover are almost always placed on some display, either on the "Bestseller" bay, or on some table, or even on an end-cap. The system may say "Current Events", but there's no way to know if/where a title was specially-displayed elsewhere in the store. Sometimes, part-time employees don't know where the management decided to display a title. Finding a book in the store can occasionally be like an Easter-egg hunt.

2) There could be a bunch of copies in the receiving area. So the system says it's in stock, but it's buried in a box or two in the back.

3) It wasn't uncommon for politically-controversial books to be "hidden" within the store by politically-motivated customers. Typical example from when I worked at a B&N: Al Franken books being "moved" to the Nursing section or the Business section by Rush Limbaugh dittohead-types. (Other times, they would simply place an Ann Coulter book over a face-out of Al Franken books.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:43 PM
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19. thanks....maybe that's what's going on. Shocking though that it would be a "B&N" that used to be
a reputable book seller ...back in the days. Thanks for the input.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:58 PM
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21. Psssst! Employees sometimes do it, including lefties hiding RW books. But you didn't
hear it from me...
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:55 PM
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30. I never knew of an employee who hid books for political reasons
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 07:04 PM by brentspeak
I once knew a bookseller who hid books en masse simply because she was too lazy to shelve them individually in their correct places, but a politically-motivated employee/book-hider? In years of working in a book store, I never came across one. The closest thing to that in my experience was some contract-IT guy who, on the sly, modified our store's system to delete every pro-gun-control book title he could think of. He was doing the same thing at some of the other stores in the area until the company figured out what he was up to.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:25 PM
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13. it came out in paperback at the end of June. I know this because
I read the hardcover copy from my local library when it first came out and kept track of the paperback release date shortly thereafter with the intent to buy it because I liked it so much (i have yet to buy it, though). So it's actually been out in paperback form for about 3 months now.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:28 PM
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16. I thought it just came out...since she's been on US book tour this week?
That's why I figured it would be "hot" at the major bookstores.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:00 PM
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31. I could have sworn she had a new book out (hence book tour) but it was
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 07:01 PM by gateley
Naomi Wolf I was thinking of.

From Klein's site, it seems as though the paperback has just been released, so you're no doubt right about the book tour.


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 05:55 PM
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20. You can check stock online...Paperback is in stock in that store...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:37 PM
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33. I guess I should have checked the "stock number" before I went over there...but I'm not used to
having to do that before I go into B&N or other book stores. Thanks for the tip. I think I'll just order from Amazon from now on...if it's a political book that might get Dem attention.

:shrug:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:42 PM
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34. If I'm in a hurry, I use the "check local stock" feature at BN, otherwise...
I go Amazon.

Now, in the case of Shock Doctrine, I went with the audiobook at Audible. I hear iTunes also has it.

Great for the drive to and from work. ;)
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:00 PM
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22. Sounds like an employee screw-up. The people in the B&N in Durham
are quite savvy and very helpful and politically hip. Good store (New Hope Commons Shopping center).
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:19 PM
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27. That's true! I've had to go to that specific store several times...
as they were the only ones to have certain books in stock in this area (progressive/literary titles).

:)

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:14 PM
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25. the person you dealt with is an idiot
the shock doctrine was on the new york times bestseller list in paperback for weeks (it's been out for more than one week in pb.) Barnes and Noble, as a corporate entity, stocks NYTimes best seller list books.

If you don't have it in your NC store, you should ask the manager about the book and wonder why the salesperson couldn't find it. mention how you're buying it from amazon. that will get the manager's attention. this is a problem with box bookstores. the employees frequently do not know shit about books. it's hit and miss.

even if the demographic in your area leans toward talibornagain b.s., your store should have a copy or have access to one. that person was simply stupid.



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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:41 PM
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28. Have them look it up by ISBN
The international standard book number for the paperback edition is:

9780312427993

I just got this from www.bn.com

Could be that the employee wasn't able to spell. They should be able to locate it using the ISBN. If not, ask them to check books in print and special order a copy.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:35 PM
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32. It was a young guy...usually they can use computers better than I...but maybe he was clueless
or had an agenda. :shrug:
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