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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:11 PM
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Please do not disparage Socialism by labeling this bailout as such
Socialism is making private assets into commonly held public assets so as to advance the common good.

This bailout would be making public assets into private assets.

The two things couldn't be any more different.

What Pailin did in Alaska with the oil payments to every Alaskan is a hell of a lot closer to Socialism than this crap. This bailout deal would be as though she taxed Alaskans and gave that money to the Oil Companies by buying oil at it's most expensive and then selling it back to the Oil Companies for half the price. See the difference?
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Aqaba Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:12 PM
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1. Its a fascist plutocracy.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:16 PM
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10. kleptocracy n/t
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:14 PM
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2. Thank you!!!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:17 PM
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3. Public cash would become privately owned.
Private trash ("troubled assets") would become publicly owned.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:17 PM
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4. Yes, and as a Socialist myself...
I hate to be associated with any type of fascist, reactionary event that has nothing to do with true Socialism.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:20 PM
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5. But how else will we scare the sheeple if we don't use the words they are conditioned to fear? n/t
:kick: & R

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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:32 PM
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6. Exactly. They're trying to rob us and blame us for the robbery
It's a sick twisted mind game these pukes play. :puke:
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:33 PM
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7. Whether we admit it or not...
the military is also a social(istic) program. The man who invented the Pledge of Allegiance was a socialist who felt that all young Americans should be indoctrinated into a pledge of patriotism and that ALL young Americans should serve time in the military. This was how they originally saluted the flag:

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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:52 PM
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8. Damn... that is one disturbing picture!
I guess you could say that any government program which is designed to promote the common good is a socialist program.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:04 PM
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9. There is a difference...

between promoting the common welfare and having the State support those institutions which are leading the nation on a reckless course. Currently we are pouring trillions into rescuing an overly-aggressive foreign policy and we are about to pour trillions into a deregulated banking industry that has gambled on too many risky investments. Some might say that our nation has gone mad.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:57 PM
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11. Mad... especially when you consider that most of our military actions
and pretty much all of our foreign policy over the last 50 years has been designed to profit our oligarchy.

The military could be used for the common good in special circumstances such as WWII, but in general it has been used for colonialism.
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