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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:06 PM
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Bush *may* declare National Emergency tonight....
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 02:13 PM by LeftHander
And will "take" the purse from Congress...under declaration of a National Security Emergency...

This will simply allow Bush to make the Bail Out happen...

He will state that the urgency is simply too great and the economy could not wait...


He will authorize the Seceratary of Treasury to execute the plan enabled by Executive Order 11490 - Signed by Richard M. Nixon

To do this:

Department of the Treasury

SECTION 301 Functions.
The Secretary of the Treasury shall develop policies, plans and procedures for the performance of emergency functions with respect to

(1) stabilization aspects of the monetary, credit, and financial system;
(2) stabilization of the dollar in relation to foreign currencies;
(3) collection of revenue;
(4) regulation of financial institutions;
(5) supervision of the Federal depository system;
(6) direction of transactions in government securities;
(7) tax and debt policies;
(8) participation in bilateral and multilateral financial arrangements with. foreign governments;
(9) regulation of foreign assets in the United States and of foreign financial dealings (in consultation with the Secretaries of State and Commerce);
(10) development of procedures for the manufacture and/or issuance and redemption of securities, stamps, coins, and currency;
(11) development of systems for the issuance and payment of Treasury checks;
(12) maintenance of the central government accounting and financial reporting system;
(13) administration of customs laws, tax laws, and laws on control of alcohol, alcoholic beverages, tobacco, and firearms;
(14) suppression of counterfeiting and forgery of government securities, stamps, coins, and currency;
(15) protection of the President and the Vice President and other designated persons;
(16) granting of loans (including participation in or guarantees of loans) for the expansion of capacity, the development of technological processes, or the production of essential material; and
(17) to the extent that such functions have not been transferred to the Secretary of Transportation, enforcement of marine inspection and navigation laws.





All Bush has to do is deliver a letter to Congress....such as this one he did following 911:

September 14, 2001
To the Congress of the United States
Pursuant to section 201 of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1621), I
hereby report that I have exercised my authority to declare a national emergency by
reason of the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center, New York, New York,
and the Pentagon, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on
the United States. A copy of my proclamation is attached.
Further, I have authorized, pursuant to section 12302 of title 10, United States
Code, the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Transportation with respect to
the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service within the Department of the
Navy, to order to active duty units and individual members not assigned to units of
the Ready Reserve to perform such missions the Secretary of Defense may
determine necessary. The deployment of United States forces to conduct operational
missions in connection with the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks
necessitates this action. A copy of my Executive Order implementing this action is
attached.
GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE,
September 14, 2001

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:07 PM
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1. Bring it on.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:09 PM
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36. what you said. if he pulls that it could get unpleasant.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:12 PM
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37. In what way?
And for whom could it get unpleasant?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:46 AM
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50. well duh. politically. it could trigger some civil unrest, perhaps?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:42 AM
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53. Careful
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:07 PM
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67. would that get pelosi to put impeachment on the table? nt
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:08 PM
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2. Excellent
Then the bailout will be 100% on him and the peasants can commence the march to the White House wielding pitchforks.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:10 PM
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3. I don't think this will happen, but if it did.......
then maybe I will get my wish, and see 10's of thousands of people (myself one of them) roaring up to the White House with pitchforks and clubs in hand.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:16 PM
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4. And torches. Don't forget the torches.
:grr:
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:09 PM
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17. I live a mile frome the White House. See you there.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:11 PM
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18. I'd be there in a heartbeat. I've had my torch and pitchfork ready since December 2000.
:grr: :grr:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:19 PM
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5. of course he will be lying to us all, and if he calls this
his financial pearl harbour, instead of him bringing it on, will we?
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:20 PM
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6. Oh, I hope he does! Then he could follow in the footsteps of Gyanendra of Nepal
In February 2005 King Gyanendra took complete control of the government, dismissing the elected parliament. Following opposition to his direct rule he was forced to return power to parliament in April 2006, which in turn reduced the king's status to that of a ceremonial monarch. He continued as such until May 28, 2008 when he was peacefully deposed and Nepal became a federal republic.

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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:32 PM
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7. So that means McLame can show up for the debate on Friday, right?
The "crisis" will be over and he can focus on campaigning?

Hmmm . . . very good.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:35 PM
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8. Maybe we can suspend elections, too?
I think that if Congress was still a Republican majority, Bush might consider it. As it is, I don't think he's got the belly for that kind of a power grab. But I still don't put anything past him and his criminal gang. Maybe he'll just dissolve Congress under his "inherent" powers of office?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:36 PM
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9. Don't think so
the goal is to make the Democratic Congress pass this shit while allowing Republicans to say they opposed it. He'd let Wall st. seize up and crash before he takes Obama and the Democrats off the hook.

If there is banking system crash, real or simulated, you can expect to see martial law though. They may not call it that but the rules of engagement between the govt and citizens will be transformed quickly. I'm not telling you you shouldn't protest the actions of the government, but my guess is they're ready to go all out should the little people rise up. They wanted to recreate Chicago 1968 at Denver, because that would drive the country into their arms as the only guarantor of law and order. Now they're probably thinking wistfully of recreating Tiananmen Square, 1989.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:37 PM
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10. Or call for special session of congress.....? nt
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:39 PM
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11. Is the army ready to kill American civilians yet?
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 02:39 PM by dkofos
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:55 PM
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30. well by Oct 1st they will be back on american soil to protect us
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:14 PM
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39. It's happened before
Artillery and musketry in 1861 (Historians please correct my dating).



They have beaucoup "non-lethal" firepower, too. It would start with that and escalate from there.


But there will be no uprising.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:40 PM
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12. if he did this, McCain would lose by a landslide
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:40 PM
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13. I'm expecting it, and we are screwn.
No debate, because there will be no election.

Just call me Miss Gloom-n-Doom.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 02:59 PM
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14. Please cite your source for this.
This is a major incident if true.
It is alarming.


Please reveal source.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:00 PM
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15. He wouldn't have the balls. Not with the majority of the
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 03:02 PM by Bonhomme Richard
population totally against this bailout. No way he would jam it down everyone's throat.
What crisis? I am still getting pre-approved credit cards in the mail, my bank has not made any adjustments to my business line of credit.
The more I hear and listen to these people the more doubtful I am that there is a "crisis". This is one last major grab at tying the hands of the next president.

If he did that new army unit ( and they would need more than one) being set up to keep us all in line couldn't be deployed fast enough. Battle Rattle....my ass.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:04 PM
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16. He's a lame duck with rich CEO friends who need more money.
He doesn't give a shit about people other than his "base" (super rich CEO types)

He'll do whatever it takes to get them the money before Obama takes over.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:24 PM
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24. He would never find a place deep enough to hide. n/t
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:10 PM
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45. He could hide with Bin Laden
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lamplite Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:26 PM
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25. New Macy's credit card ad
.....After a one-time, $25 fee charged on your Macy's card, you'll
earn 10% rewards on *most* of your Macy's card purchases......

$10 of the enrollment fee benefits charitable causes.....

So! Annual fees for department store cards. Wheeeeee
As if. Not ever. I wonder how many cards I will be
cutting up and returning during the next year.

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slewfoot Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:13 PM
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38. Same here with the LOC
My business has a sizeable line of credit, and I haven't heard a word from my bank.
I call bullshit on most of their story. I do acknowledge a troubled economy, but
not one that has to be bailed out "by Friday". Just my two cents.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:05 PM
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44. I have thought the same thing
I am starting to think this 'crisis' is comparable to the 'terror crisis' .... yeah, terrorists may hurt/kill a an isolated group of persons, but if you play the odds, chances are it really isn't going to DIRECTLY affect you...

this is not to belittle the tragedy and hardships of those affected by terrorism; however I think it is a fair comparison when viewed from a purely odds based perspective.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:12 PM
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19. it will be the death knell of the repuglican party. bring. it. on!
has a president ever had a "Zero" approval rating...?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:19 PM
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22. Don't need no stinkin party when you're a dictator.
All you need is a military.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:35 PM
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27. the military is in iraq.
the u.s. military could barely handle the insurgency in iraq- could you imagine the level of dissent and insurgency they'd be faced with here? not to mention desertion among their own ranks...

he would NOT have the support of the military.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:17 AM
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57. I'm sure Chimpy can call Erik Prince at Blackwater to send over some "temps". nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:02 AM
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59. enough to keep the lid on 330 million angry civilians? extremely doubtful.
:eyes:
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:19 AM
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60. Your smilie shows your naivete.
What makes you think 330 million citizens (305 million according to the U.S. census) will rise up to do ANYTHING? Plus, shoot a few "violent rioters" and watch the crowds scatter. Park a few Active Denial Systems around the White House, zap some people from 500 yards away, and NOBODY'S GONNA DO ANYTHING.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:39 AM
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61. now who's being naive...?
people do have a limit as to what they will tolerate, even in this country. our vaunted military could barely handle the rag-tag insurgency in iraq- and it was NOTHING compared to what would erupt here.

as far as "active denial systems" around the white house- so what? if nobody pays any attention or heeds the edicts of the guy inside, he's still just as powerless.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:49 AM
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62. China's population is 1.3 billion.
How'd Tienanmen Square turn out? Does China have a thriving democracy now?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:12 PM
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64. how many guns does the average chinese citizen have?
plus- the chinese government had the cooperation of the military- in such a scenario here, bush wouldn't.

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:39 PM
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65. Iraqi citizens had Kalishnikovs.
Didn't help to overthrow Saddam, did it?

Additionally, Blackwater mercenaries are not all American citizens. Payment is the only cooperation necessary.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:42 PM
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66. once again- sadaam had the cooperation of the military and a nice share of the population.
we're in no danger of a military dictatorship in this country at this time.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:12 PM
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20. Yup.
Here it comes...
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:41 PM
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28. Yup.
Right on schedule.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:21 AM
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49. nope
I understand two aspirin helps for tinfoil poisoning
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:17 PM
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21. LOL - and by Monday he'll be in Saudi Arabia
in Idi Amin's old apartment. Converting to Islam and fighting extradition.

Absolutely nobody - NOBODY - would back him here.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:22 PM
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23. If does that, there will be runs on every bank in America tomorrow morning.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:34 PM
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26. Should I hit the bank before I head home tonight? nt
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:49 PM
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29. AND Bush may choke on a pretzel tonight. Where are you getting this? Link, please?
Times are scary enough without someone postulating a hypothetical nightmare scenario as though it's real.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:56 PM
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31. that was my thinking
as well

Or read from My Pet Goat...


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 03:58 PM
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32. If he tries to pull something like this
With four months in office left. It's time to start brewing up the malatov cocktails.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:01 PM
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33. KICK (I REALLY REALLY miss the old Greatest Page now!!!!)
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:03 PM
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34. Then we need to have him committed to a mental institution
or a zoo.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:07 PM
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35. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, but I actually hope he does...
Given McCain's stunt today (and, who knows? Both may be linked), not only are the American people disgusted with this bunch, but they can't even get a majority of the Republican congresscritters to get behind them as evidenced by their "rising en masse" against Cheney yesterday.

Granted, we have that Army combat brigade that has been brought home for probably this very reason, but perhaps the higher ups in the military are ready to, at the very least, disobey orders.

What's up with Blackwater these days? Are they spread throughout the US?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:15 PM
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40. Obama didn't take McCain's bait.
IMO McCain wanted to force Obama into suspending his campaign too. But Obama responded rationally.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:47 PM
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41. Go Fucking Ahead! Do a Marie Antoinette Chimpy!!!!
We all know how well that turned out for the monarchy.....

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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:57 AM
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56. Vive La Révolution!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 05:54 PM
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42. Was looking for a post like this. This is in the back of my mind since the suspend debate
announcement and gaining momentum the closer we get to 9pm.

Keep talking, I'm reading.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:03 PM
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43. Maybe then we can get Impeachment on the table.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:21 PM
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46. Actually, he'll probably declare that since McCain is having problems, he'll stay on the job
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 06:24 PM by haele
another year so the GOP can get a new candidate to run against Obama. Just to be fair - and it will just be another year, not like it's another term or something like that. Businesses do it all the time when there's a problem at the top and they're looking for replacements, so it's no big deal, not like the elections are being suspended or anything like that.
Oh, and go out and do your patriotic holiday shopping duties while he goes ahead and authorizes this one time executive bail-out, cause Congress is acting like a bunch of whiney kiddies. We need to boost the economy, you know.

Haele
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:26 PM
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47. Oh Shit... That almost makes sense.
Also explains McClueless suspending campaign
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:48 AM
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48. Too boring to watch
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:48 AM
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51. Do you have any evidence for this, or are you just fearmongering?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:46 AM
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54. The army's on the ground, Blackwater is armed and ready...
Cheney does not want to go anywhere

We can't leave out the possibility that they will try to cancel the election

They are that bold
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:49 AM
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55. It would take a helluva lot more to cancel the election that simply saying "No Election"
Now, if there is some evidence of this, I'd like to see it. Right now I haven't seen any.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:23 AM
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58. watch this...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:39 AM
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52. What a terrible mistake if he interferes.
This entire era has his fingerprint over it because he bullied Congress into every major decision. This would seal his fate as the worst leader in known history. Nero, move over.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:21 PM
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63. PSSSSST---
The letter Bush sent to Congress on 14Sept01 has never been rescinded, so, by default, we have been in a constant state of emergency since then. With the fragile state we find ourselves in, it wouldn't take much to activate this. A pandemic of some sort, false flag attack, economic collapse, civil unrest of any kind, ie, national work strike, protests, war with Iran, the list goes on, ad infinitum. As I've posted on other threads, I cannot imagine Bush and Cheney would voluntarily give up their "hard earned" power, especially since all the Constitutional safeguards that would prevent a coup have been removed, either by law, signing statement, or executive order. And, of course, the unpleasant fact that the entire Bush administration would be subject to criminal prosecution, would seem to me to be strong motivation to stay in power.
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