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djkevvy Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:55 PM
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Pulpit Freedom Sunday
Pulpit Freedom Sunday Participating pastors will exercise First Amendment right to speak on positions of electoral candidates Sept. 28

http://alliancedefensefund.org/news/story.aspx?cid=4690
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:19 PM
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1. So do you think this is acceptable for them to do & still keep their tax exempt status? n/t
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djkevvy Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:17 PM
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6. And just to clarify, I'm not advocating it, just letting you all now what's going on...
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:47 PM
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8. Ah.. okay.. thanks, I read about it on DU a few days ago. :-) If you'd like to help...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:48 PM
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9. My apologies.
:hi:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:31 PM
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2. This is clearly a sad attempt to disrupt.
This is civil disobedience. I support civil disobedience, but it does come with the acceptance of the consequences. The consequence of this is the termination of the tax exempt status of the participating churches. Go for it! IMO this would be a good result.:9 :evilgrin: :smoke: Enjoy your short stay on DU.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:41 PM
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3. I have political opinions and I have to pay taxes
CENSORSHIP!
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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:45 PM
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4. NO church should be tax exempt...
Tax them at the standard rate just like any other business enterprise.

Even Jesus said to "render to Caesar that which is Caesar's". Time to pony up.
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djkevvy Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:15 PM
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5. I agree. Let's take away the tax exempt status of these million dollar megachurches.
If they want to play in the public sector, let them pay in it as well.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:39 PM
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7. And the neighborhood parish?
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 02:58 PM
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10. That's the problem with this whole mess....
The constitution clearly states that there should be
a line between politics and religion.

I don't want anyone from the government telling me how
to run my church, NOR telling me what and how to preach.

I understand that many progressives think that churches should
pay taxes like other businesses. But the neighborhood parish is
NOT a business, but like a non-profit. In fact, none of the parishes
I have pastored ever EVER had a profit. We were usually in the hole
as far as sticking to the budget.

But we always kept our committments with feeding the hungry,
sending food, clothing, medicines to missions,
and with our goal of easing the burdens of others.

Now, if the government wants to look at our books they
are welcome. But do not tell me how to run my church,
nor tell me what and how to preach.

In no way do I want to use the privilege of the pulpit
to tell people how to vote.
I encourage them to use their rights and blessings.
I encourage them to look carefully at our nation,
and consider how to participate in its future.

AND I love to point out the inequality in our culture,
I love to point out the weaknesses of our political system,
and I love to poke our 'leaders.'

But being a pastor is a responsibility; to use that for
political purposes is a denial of the constitution,
and the denigration of the pulpit.

BTW: I am NOT a fan of the 'mega-churches' who are a
derivation of the 'mall-culture' of the last century.
These 'churches' brag about their luxurious facilities,
their bookstores, their cafes, their 'programs.'
I invite them to open their financial books for
examination. How can a people who claim to be faithful
use their people for commerce? What about Matthew 25:31-45?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 03:22 PM
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11. Take their tax-exempt status away from them. nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 04:51 PM
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12. Does the Radical RW really want to open this can of worms? After all, there are many...
...many more Progressive churches than RW ones. The RW ones just have bigger mouths.

NGU.

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