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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 AM
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Bailout Bill: I ain't no financial expert. Someone wanna explain this part??
(After all, this is MY money that's getting spent here.)

SEC. 101. PURCHASES OF TROUBLED ASSETS.

(e) PREVENTING UNJUST ENRICHMENT.—In making
purchases under the authority of this Act, the Secretary
shall take such steps as may be necessary to prevent
unjust enrichment of financial institutions participating in
a program established under this section, including by
preventing the sale of a troubled asset to the Secretary at
a higher price than what the seller paid to purchase the
asset. This subsection does not apply to troubled assets
acquired in a merger or acquisition, or a purchase of
assets from a financial institution in conservatorship or
receivership, or that has initiated bankruptcy proceedings
under title 11, United States Code.


https://financialservices.house.gov/essa/ayo08c04_xml.pdf

So if troubled assets were acquired in a merger or acquisition, or in a bankruptcy proceeding, then it suddenly becomes ok for the Secretary to pay financial institutions a higher price than they paid?

Why?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 AM
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1. Why? Because this bill is about enriching the crooks that screwed things up in the first place.
Seems clear enough to me. :shrug:
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 AM
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2. You aren't supposed to read stuff.
It passed. We are all patriots.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 AM
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3. You forgot: WMD! MUSHROOM CLOUD! (nt)
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 AM
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9. Not Passed. They vote tomorrow. n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:00 AM
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4. Makes no sense to me either.
Paying the seller a higher price than they're worth should be what's prohibited, and this bill, even with oversight, gives Paulson too much power.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 AM
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5. Ohhhhh, yeah, I was going to mention that part...
:eyes:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:10 AM
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6. yes.
Section 101(e) Specifically allows Treasury to pay up to 100% of the original acquisition cost of an asset, irrespective of its current value in the marketplace, and such determination is non-reviewable. None of these "troubled assets" are currently priced or valued there, or they wouldn’t be "troubled". There is no threshold to prevent the Treasury from overpaying for these assets nor to keep sellers from gaming the system for acquisition.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:12 AM
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7. That's exactly what I thought. Guess I'm smarter than I thought I was.
:D

Man are we gonna get hosed or are we gonna get hosed?

:grr:
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 AM
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8. x
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:17 AM by Incitatus
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:11 AM
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10. I'll take that as a kick. ;-)
Geez I'm goin' to bed. Tomorrow's gonna be a doozy, and I don't mean DUzy.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:36 AM
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11. The market capitalization of AIG $8.47B
and we got it for the bargain price of $85B!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :puke:

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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:49 AM
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12. Wow, I didn't realize that.
Insane.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:57 AM
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13. We didn't even get 100% ownership
Something like 80%.

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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:18 AM
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14. Dude.
I just don't know what to think anymore.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:26 AM
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15. Because Carlyle Group is apparently in need of more money for the New World Order.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 03:31 AM by lonestarnot
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