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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:43 PM
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Paul Wellstone must be screaming from the heavens
I can hear his voice loud and clear; This must not pass.

He would be standing on the Senate Floor, standing on his toes, raising his arms in animation, that we are be taking for the biggest financial fiasco ride of our lifetime, of our children's lifetimes.

He would never stand for this. He would be explaining to us in the simplest of terms so that we would all understand what is happening.

He would not be popular amongst the Senate. He never was. But he always told us the truth.

How I wished today that Obama would have channeled his voice and listened to his wisdom.

For those who have not read "The Conscience of a Liberal" I implore you to do so.

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:44 PM
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1. So true. So sadly true. Please, let this bullshit NOT pass. They are railroading us - once again.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:45 PM
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2. Obama is listening to his advisors like Warren Buffett
. Buffett knows his stuff. He said it must be done
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:49 PM
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5. Buffet is set to make a few more billion on his deals. Not exactly who I'd turn to at this point.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:57 PM
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7. Buffett already has his billions
Hes going to be okay no matter what. And hes made it clear that the Bush Tax cuts for the rich are ridiculous and the country can't afford them.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:03 PM
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11. Buffet for the Senate!
Now there is a man who will fight for the little guy.

Who needs people like Wellstone.

If Wellstone was so smart, how comne he wasn't wealthy?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:45 PM
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I'll never forget the time I heard he'd died
I was on the way down to DC to protest this bullshit war, matcom was driving, WillPitt was following, and we call a call from him while we were just about to hit a tollbooth in Delaware.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:45 PM
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3. How do you know how Paul Wellstone would have voted?
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 07:46 PM by ProSense
He voted for the DOMA.

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:05 PM
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9. And the wrote that he regretted it.
But it's true, people often forget that.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:16 PM
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28. He wasn't perfect, but he did regret the DOMA vote
and he was the only senator up for reelection who voted against the IWR - even though he was told it would mean he'd lose the election.


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:48 PM
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4. ........
:tinfoilhat:
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:07 PM
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10. Oh, Please
You can't hear him explaining this to us.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:10 AM
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19. No, I hear him and loved him and believe that he was
silenced on purpose.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:25 AM
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20. Oh, I misunderstood you
Now I get it. Yes and agreed.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:30 AM
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22. My apologies being cryptic...it's hard for me to think about Paul and not cry.
After being politically aware for years I sort of fell asleep awhile before 9/11 but I was aware of Paul as soon as he was running for Senate. Everything that man said resonated with me. When he was killed I was devastated and am still devastated that his clear voice was silenced. Thank you for starting the thread and :hug:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:36 AM
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21. I was thinking the exact same thing....
:tinfoilhat:
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:51 PM
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6. He actually wrote the mental health bill they attached it to.
To get the bill through the Senate they attached it to a bill that mandates health insurance coverage for mental health that had been stalled for years. It was originally sponsored by Paul Wellstone.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:01 PM
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8. So what would Paul have done - would he not act at all or would he get a different bill passsed?
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 08:01 PM by dmordue
Paul probably wouldn't just stand around and bitch....
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:07 PM
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12. talk
Talk is what Wellstone did. It is what we are all doing.

He would have persuaded people. That is what we are trying to do.

It is called politics. Politics is driven by opinion. Opinion is informed by thought and discussion. That is "doing" and it is not "standing around and bitching."

Join us. Add something of value to the discussion. That would be doing something, and your post did nothing other than to detract from the discussion and annoy people.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:39 AM
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24. Thank you.
Too few people realize that shaping opinions (even on DU) is real work.

It's a dirty and mostly thankless job that tends to be blown off as "bitching" and "keyboard warriors," but somebody's got to do it.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:07 PM
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27. if course
"The pen is mightier than the sword."

The right wingers are in power because they control the discussion.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:12 PM
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13. I think he would have wanted a package that included homeowners.
And, he would also have reminded us not to let the vote divide us either way. He would have taken time to remind us that we need to elect a President Obama so we can fix this economy and make it work for us all. He would have said not to get distracted from the real goal CHANGE.

That's just my humble opinion.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:32 AM
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15. Nice. Thanks. nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:12 PM
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26. Thank YOU.
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:11 AM
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14. I think Paul Wellstone would have supported Obama.
Hey, baby steps. This election could be epic, and Wellstone would have approved, warts and all.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:07 AM
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18. Wellstone stood alone against the Bankruptcy Bill in 1998 & 2000
http://www.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/views/050100-107.htm
Published on Monday, May 1, 2000 in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune

Wellstone Acts Alone To Block
Bankruptcy Bill
by Rob Hotakainen

As members of Congress try to make it more difficult for individuals to erase their debts, they've run into an obstacle: Sen. Paul Wellstone.

~~~~~snip~~~~~

On Tuesday, Wellstone to appear at a news conference on Capitol Hill, where he will join with leaders of unions, consumer groups and civil-rights organizations to denounce the bill.

"While punishing the most financially vulnerable citizens of this country, this bankruptcy bill does virtually nothing to hold lenders and credit-card companies accountable for their own irresponsible practices," Wellstone said.

He said the bill purports to address a "crisis" that he said is taking care of itself. He said there were 112,000 fewer bankruptcies in 1999 than there were in 1998, a decline of nearly 10 percent.

If Congress passes the bill, Wellstone said, "the message is clear: Make risky loans, discourage savings, promote excess and Congress will reward your behavior by letting you be more coercive in your collections."

~~~~~snip~~~~

I am sure Wellstone would have supported Obama for President, but I do not think that Wellstone would have gone along with this bailout. Wellstone spoke passionately about this subject numerous times on the floor.

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:39 AM
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16. This might just be a huge trap for Obama.
If he defeated this thing they could still tank the economy and start finger-pointing.

This easily may have been their "October Surprise" designed to focus the public's anger on Barak.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:41 AM
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17. They've overplayed their hand. Now we all realize, or should realize,
how thoroughly owned we are. We know who Congress has to service. It's nakedly obvious now.

We're being held up and even the leadership is having a hard time finding metaphors to soften the stick up.
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:51 AM
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23. Wellstone would have filibustered the crap out of this bill.
I had the same image of him in my head, standing on the Senate floor and railing against the bill. He would never have allowed it to pass.

I'm not sure if he was "popular" in the Senate but I always heard that the all respected him, even those that had views that were the complete opposite of his. He stood by his beliefs and that was something they respected.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:41 AM
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25. Great post
K & R
:hi:
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