BLACK MONDAY: Mysterious Poster Says Big Stock Market Crash Today 10-6-08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pk50pWqCYg


The poster's name was Reinhardt. In July, he predicted the September 15th crash in the markets. According to him, the "Big One" comes on Monday, October 6th. Strange, DOW futures are -236 for today. These are his posts at Google Finance:

http://finance.google.ca/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf/2000139928d2d434

Uh Oh.

that as well and I am not mysterious although I am a stranger.

I apologize, my sound isn't working so I didn't go to link. Perhaps he predicted this well before now

of tax payers' money.

As predicted the bailout did NOTHING to calm the markets.

Maybe next time, Congress will listen to "We the People" instead of me the bush.

very good article posted here yesterday -- sorry I can't remember where and can't keep up -- said China has started pulling our strings.

the prescience. The eerie fucking prescience.

Correlation does not equal causation, so I am not convinced solely on seming prescience, but I am impressed enough to keep an eye peeled for it in the future.

Does it really revolve around Opus Dei/Legatus? Is there really that big a conspiracy? Not that, after 8 years of Bushler, it hasn't be demonstrated that such can be pulled off and under the right circumstances pulled off quite openly.

This is one of those things where my logic tells me there HAS to be another alternate explanation of this prescience.

OTOH, with the obvious and swift changes that have reduced the American People to a weak-minded Subject Populace in a generation or two, and all that has caused in the last 20 years, such as Bushler II, makes me wonder if anything isn't possible that could cause such Orwellian Madness in so short a time.

Either way, I am impressed but not fully convinced.

Today I might be closer to becoming convinced. Beings as that means a major calamity, I hope I am not.

Nothing would surprise me either but geesh...

I have no words.

If you haven't read the google finance links and view the YouTube, you should.

The fact of the matter is that Sept. 15th occurred right on time, two months after he predicted it.

And though I don't believe he specifically mentions Oct. 6th, 2008. Talk of October is centered on his also uncannily prescient prediction that Oct 2007 (immediately following Legatus' Pilgrimage to Rome) to the Ides of March 2008 would see similar movements.

But no matter the cause, tinfoilly or legitimate, the predictions stand on their own as having come true months after he predicted them.

That alone must give pause. Are there alternate explanations? Most definitely.

Does Opus Dei concern me? I have neither read nor seen The Da vinci Code, nor do I wish to. But all I had to do was read Opus Dei's actions, such as purposefully recruiting the rich and powerful to the exclusion of the poor and middle class, which as a concept is directly oppositional to jesus' teachings.

The idea that a religious semi-secret society was deliberately targeting the rich and powerful around the world is disturbing enough. Like it or not, Legatus and Opus Dei both are closed doors to EVERYONE EXCEPT the rich and powerful.

That alone, along with what it says about the "Christians" who would create such an institution in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ, is more than enough cause for alarm. Or the idea that at least two of our Supreme Court Justices, in fact two of the most corrupt, Scalia and Alito, are also members. No tinfoil needs to be added here...just the fact of it.

As I already said. This deserves further thought, and yes, the stock market (once again, perhaps coincidentally), in direct contravention to what one would expect after a trillion and a half dollars ($700 billion from the bailout and $630 billion in Bushie Printing Press Dollars) about to be injected into it, is now crashing again.

Like it or not, this event (and at the end of today we shall know if it is something or nothing, in which case I will feel much better that this can be dismissed as tinfoilhattery) coincides with what one would think after the Money Laundered Checks Clear at the Oct. 2-4 Legatus Seattle Gathering.

Once again: I recognize correlation does not equal causation, but if today is a 400-point or greater drop, then once again events do correlate with Reinhart's theories, even if said theories are not the reason WHY events correlated.

That is possible, too. As I said I hope it is the case, because the other option is hideous to contemplate.

Of course, the one Pope who vowed to reform the corrupt Vatican Finance System was dead in less than three months, of an overdose of his own blood pressure medication.

I am not saying this means it is certain he was murdered, but once again, it is a VERY lucky coincidence for the Bushies and their Global Allies that this man died and was replaced by John Paul II, who worked VERY with the Bushies and NEVER DREAMED of even looking at the corrupt Vatican Finance System which, if Reinhart is true must be central to the money laundering and therefore must NEVER be examined by "reformers".

Would people kill to protect a multi-billion dollar corrupt money laundering operation with damning ties to the Global Aristocracy everywhere? Hmmm.....

As I said, it all does dovetail nicely. Add to the a 2 for 2 and perhaps by the end of today a 3 for 3 of predictions made months in advance, predicated on events which SHOULD have no correlation with such things as the DOW, but does seem to.

I so want this not to be true, and it still probably is not true, but the predictions, the corrupt vatican finance system, the mysterious death of JP I by his own BP medication after announcing he was going to crack open the books of Vatican Bank.

I don't know what to think. I certainly hope this is all bullshit and stringing together of coincidences.

Still, as we have all seen, there are few coincidences in Bush-Occupied Amerika, and the Bushies are very allied with the Corrupt Faction at the Vatican (witness the sudden appearance of repeated Vatican Pronouncements against non-Bushie candidates these last 8 years, like Kerry can't take communion because he's not a "real catholic", and there have been several others).

Man, I hope the stock market does OK today, if only so I can dismiss this as tinfoil hattery.

Somehow, I have the strange feeling that the Dow will plunge at least 400 points today. I hope not. I hope not. I don't want to start buying this shit, even a little bit.

But facts are facts, and if today is down 400 points (doubly so if it down 800 or more) Reinhart's predictions are now 3 for 3.

And that HAS to be noted.

About the activities of this organization in the times in between these specific dates to see if this is nothing more than mere coincidence. The most powerful argument for it is the predicted dates of the crashes but there needs to be more about why.
We already know the underlying problems are to do with the unregulated derivatives markets and the way the credit rating agencies fraudulently rated Mortgage Backed Securities(MBS's) AAA when they were not much better than JUNK.

every single major maket fluctuation. Analyze it that way, and anyone would look mad and unable to follow through.

Try predicting the details of how each part of your day will go for a month straight.

The point here is that tha straw man you built has nothing to do with what reinhart was saying. Like someone talking about global warming and you reply "But it was cold out yesterday."

OK, but what does that have to do with the point?

Reinhart (and let me reiterate again that I am not certain of his assertions, but they have given me pause to think) is saying that these Legatus retreats correlate with major downward market day or periods. Which is a far cry from saying that every major market drop must therefore precede a Legatus Event.

I don't know whether to buy this or not. But I respect being able to call a major stock market downturn and it's accompanying bad news a full two months before it happens, and long before anyone was thinking along these lines.

And I am VERY familiar with accurately predicting events in advance and getting called a bullshitter even when the evidence of the prediction is there.

Whether or not this is bullshit in the end, you can't dismiss it simply because of the power of an accurate prediction like that.

Good to know they rammed that bailout package through to avoid catastrophe. :eyes:

Otherwise, the implications are too horrific to contemplate.

Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.

OTOH, sometimes that's EXACTLY what it means.

These conspiracy types love 9/11. It's too bad he didn't say "the market is going to drop 550 points the day it reopens after a massive fucking terrorist attack, which was planned and executed by the Bush administration."

Also, try to prove a negative. Are you SURE he didn't make a 9/10 prediction somewhere?

I thought not.

Whatever he is, and your use of the pejoriative :conspiracy nut" indicates you are likely close-minded to anything outside of what the TV tells you is "agreed-upon conventional wisdom" (have you not noticed the Bushies have been deliberately poisoning that well for three decadeds and more?), he has also now been correct three times.

Oct. 2007-Ides of March 2008
Sept 15th
Today

Does that mean that automatically means his reasoning behind his correct predictions is also correct? Of course not.

But 3 of 3 specific predictions of this type cannon be ignored, cannot be dismissed with a wave of the hand. If you posess what so many of our fellow Americans have had eroded away by years of TV and the neutralization of the education system, then you know that there is more possible that the binary thinking of yes/no, 0/1 that you sneeringly lay out.

You see, there's a whole range of other option besides fully embracing Reinhardt's worldview and sneeringly dismissing it close-mindedly, as you have done.

This may come to a shock to you, but it is actually possible to consider that there may be something to Reinhart's now 3 for 3 without fully subscribing to his every notion.

The brain is like a muscle. If it is not exercised, it atrophies. Cable TV has atrophied all our brains. It is nearly impossible to find another American who is capable of thinking in anything other than "Punditspeak", which is to say weak-minded binary thinking writ large.

It affects us all. Me, you, anyone. But it affects people more who are not aware that they have been affected.

Turn off your Cable TV. Ignore the pundits, for listening to others telling you what to think about what you saw can only result in more atrophy. And for God's sake...reconnect with your criticial thinking skills and remember that not all questions are yes/no right/wrong 0/1 he-said/she-said, even though virtually every TV program you have seen for your entire life has driven that mode of thinking deep into your mind.

You are not alone. As I said, the secret to effective propaganda is to keep the victim unaware that they are being manipulated, which makes them easier to manipulate.

Anyway, you may know this already. After all, I don't know you personally. This may just be a glib thoughtless post you tossed off without thinking. You may not be able to think only in Cable TV Punditspeak, which is to say Binary, but merely only appear so in your last post.

In either case, my basic reply is essentially the same. It is possible for Reinhardt's prediction to give one pause while not embracing his theories fully, or even at all.

bookmarked

to post here at du under a different name - waleska, for reinhardt college in waleska, georgia. i found it fascinating because it tied into some things i was interested in re history.

however...

there is a lot of weird stuff that seems to be coming together at this particular time. one should always ask - who's pulling the strings here? that goes for everything, on all sides. when things seem too good (or eerie) to be true, they usually are. that's never failed me yet.

&, btw, he didn't say "crash," or "the big one," he said "sell". the rest is whatever you read into his cryptic posts.

It was basically the same story as on google.ca's follow up posts, however I couldn't make heads or tails of his message and nothing important sems to have happened on Oct 23, 2007 which was the date which he pointed at.

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Not "know him," but I've run across him on Usenet I believe. Same name ... same style.

He's very odd.

Down 600 points now, and it's only lunchtime.

The markets hit hard today!