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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:09 AM
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Palin: Another Sociopath
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Palin: Another Sociopath

Posted by Jill Hussein C., Brilliant at Breakfast at 9:00 AM on October 5, 2008.

Isn't it odd how Sarah Palin never talks about the future?




A number of people noticed how, at her debate with Joe Biden the other night, Sarah Palin didn't so much as gaze over at Biden with a look of feigned sympathy when Biden alluded to his own sons' stay in the hospital after the death of his wife and daughter soon after his election to the Senate. Hilzoy wrote about it here. Nice Greek Boy wrote about it too. Simple human decency and kindness warranted some kind of a response. You can bet that if Sarah Palin was recounting a personal tragedy, however obliquely, Biden would have found something comforting to say.

The more I watch Tina Fey play Sarah Palin, the more I begin to realize that no matter how spot-on Fey is, she never really quite captures the cold, hard core at the center of Sarah Palin. Because Fey has a warmth, a light in her eyes that Sarah Palin just doesn't have.

Dr. Sam Vaknin, author of Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited, describes pathological narcissism as:

a pattern of thinking and behaving in adolescence and adulthood, which involves infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others. It manifests in the chronic pursuit of personal gratification and attention (narcissistic supply), in social dominance and personal ambition, bragging, insensitivity to others, lack of empathy and/or excessive dependence on others to meet his/her responsibilities in daily living and thinking.


Palin's bizarre non-response to Biden's indirect reference to his own experience was jarring coming from someone who presents herself as a paragon of apple pie and American motherhood.

It's always treacherous, especially these days, to ascribe nefarious motives to a woman's ambition, motives that are not questioned when they are attributed to a man. Frank Rich wrote about this ambition today:

But there’s a steady unnerving undertone to Palin’s utterances, a consistent message of hubristic self-confidence and hyper-ambition. She wants to be president, she thinks she can be president, she thinks she will be president. And perhaps soon. She often sounds like someone who sees herself as half-a-heartbeat away from the presidency. Or who is seen that way by her own camp, the hard-right G.O.P. base that never liked McCain anyway and views him as, at best, a White House place holder.

This was first apparent when Palin extolled a “small town” vice president as a hero in her convention speech — and cited not one of the many Republican vice presidents who fit that bill but, bizarrely, Harry Truman, a Democrat who succeeded a president who died in office. A few weeks later came Charlie Gibson’s question about whether she thought she was “experienced enough” and “ready” when McCain invited her to join his ticket. Palin replied that she didn’t “hesitate” and didn’t “even blink” — a response that seemed jarring for its lack of any human modesty, even false modesty.

In the last of her Couric interview installments on Thursday, Palin was asked which vice president had most impressed her, and after paying tribute to Geraldine Ferraro, she chose “George Bush Sr.” Her criterion: she most admires vice presidents “who have gone on to the presidency.” Hours later, at the debate, she offered a discordant contrast to Biden when asked by Gwen Ifill how they would each govern “if the worst happened” and the president died in office. After Biden spoke of somber continuity, Palin was weirdly flip and chipper, eager to say that as a “maverick” she’d go her own way.

But the debate’s most telling passage arrived when Biden welled up in recounting his days as a single father after his first wife and one of his children were killed in a car crash. Palin’s perky response — she immediately started selling McCain as a “consummate maverick” again — was as emotionally disconnected as Michael Dukakis’s notoriously cerebral answer to the hypothetical 1988 debate question about his wife being “raped and murdered.” If, as some feel, Obama is cool, Palin is ice cold. She didn’t even acknowledge Biden’s devastating personal history.

After the debate, Republicans who had been bailing on Palin rushed back to the fold. They know her relentless ambition is the only hope for saving a ticket headed by a warrior who is out of juice and out of ideas. So what if she is preposterously unprepared to run the country in the midst of its greatest economic crisis in 70 years? She looks and sounds like a winner.


I'm quite sure that the Usual Suspects on both the right and the left will be shrieking about Rich's sexism in painting her ambition as being sexist and part of a double standard.

But there's something about Palin's speeches and interviews that I've found unnerving, and this morning I finally realized what it is.

She never, ever talks about the future.

Ever. .......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/101656/palin%3A__another_sociopath/




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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:12 AM
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1. Another graduate of the Bush-McCain School of Narcisissm (sp?) n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:16 AM
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2. Remember how folksy charming and schmoozing GWB was
when he ran initially. Often you would have thought he was a moderate
Democrat. He knew this because at the end of his speeches, he would
say--I am a canservative. (As if to reassure the Hard Right in his party.

On substance they are about the same.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:00 PM
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5. just another play to the gullible fundy vote
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:18 AM
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3. HELL-LOOOOO MEDIA PEOPLE! WAKE UP!
Now is not the time to be ignoring this. It should be news and reporting on all stations. America is really stupid, I mean, what is it? Politeness???? Geeeeeze!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:00 PM
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9. I agree. I posted about this in early September.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:25 PM
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12. Stupid and greedy and self serving and self absorbed, for the most part.
She is, like george, a media creation so calling for them to wake up, won't do any good.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:53 AM
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4. Republican Women: Sarah Palin, Jean Schmidt, Liddy Dole, and Virginia Fox
Look into their eyes and what do you see....dollar bills and meanness??
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:11 PM
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6. Gov. Palin is a Sociopath, arroagant,,viscious, inept & corrupt .
Alaskans need to mount a Recall Petition & toss her out. The vetting process of her becoming Gov. must have been almost non existent. Her abuses while Gov. have been ignored until recently. The spotlight now has revealed her unethical & perhaps criminal actions as Gov. She screwed up by accepting the VP position that is way beyond her level & has brought about new scrutiny of her as Mayor & Gov. She is unfit to be Gov., much less VP or possibly Pres. of the USA.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:05 PM
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7. Pathological narcissism
is very dangerous. These people can easily be programmed to follow an extremist agenda as they really have no feelings for others.

The article mentions the "Left Behind" series of books about the Rapture. I'd like an interviewer to ask her if she has read them. Millions of people believe in these books.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:54 PM
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8. Sarah Palin, are you a sociopath? "You betcha!"



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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:01 PM
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10. Frank Rich is scaring me!
What he is describing is a woman with a killer instinct. Deadly. Without conscience. Unmoved by others. I don't like this woman.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:17 PM
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11. She'll be back.
Here is what someone told another Sarah in a great sci-fi movie;

"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

Quite apt describing this Sarah.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:31 PM
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13. Actually it's not "narcissism"
It's actually religious fanaticism, they aren't utterly sure of themselves, they are utterly sure of their God... that's why "they're right and your're wrong"... That's also why they don't care what happens to anyone, why they are nihilistic because they are utter Calvinists who believe that they are predetermined to go to heaven when they die and it doesn't really matter therefore what they do here on earth while they are alive.

They are "saved" no matter what they do and God doesn't value YOUR life so why should THEY value your life.

There is very little difference in fundamentalism no matter if it is Christian, Jewish or Islamic. It devalues non-believers as less than human and provides a justification for horrific actions as not only not "sin" but often as "virtue".

Palin is a religious wing-nut and far scarier than Bush in many ways in that I sometimes think that his religious wing-nut behavior is faked. Hers is totally real and she's a product of their system.

Doug D.
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sweetroxie Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:36 PM
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14. A narcissistic sociopath. How perfect is that?!
A perfect poster girl for the GOP. Ice water in her veins.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:39 PM
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15. alien lizard
:D




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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:49 PM
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16. Definitely Cheney in a skirt with a healthy dose of wacky fundamentalism
NT
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:50 PM
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18. I think Cheney has a nicer smile
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 05:50 PM by ailsagirl
NOT!!!
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Porschenut1066 Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:50 PM
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17. Palin was trained by PNAC and is the Poster Child for Neocons
She is as amoral as they come. She is a proverbial hydra.
I don't think McCain will last longer than the first cup of coffee Palin offers him if they get in.
She will however be grinning, looking him in the eye, as he dies and she will feel nothing! Perhaps as much as she feels when she squashes a fly.
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